If Ben Carson Is Wrong, Why Are Islamists Trying to Change the Constitution?

[Dexter]

Right.

Whatever you say..........   

One poster will always be the most left leaning. On this forum that's me, and if I wasn't here somebody else would take up that role. Being the most left leaning person on this forum does not make me a "standard liberal." I disagree with liberals all the time. You just don't see that side of me because you're not a liberal and I don't contribute to echo chambers.

[musiclady]

You might want to get over your Jesus complex. Equating Santorum with Muslims is intellectual foolishness, at best. There were no facts stated.

I would call it 'intellectual dishonesty.'

I'm quite sure the fellow knows that equating Santorum with Muslims was just plain goofy, but from what I've seen, he says stupid stuff just to get a rise out of us.

He's playing a game, methinks.......... thus the ridiculous comments bearing no resemblance to 'facts.'

[bkepley]

You might want to get over your Jesus complex. Equating Santorum with Muslims is intellectual foolishness, at best. There were no facts stated.

Whatever, all I am saying his intention is not motivated by political correctness.  Actually as far as Freemasonry goes I'm not sure what the point was.

[musiclady]

One poster will always be the most left leaning. On this forum that's me, and if I wasn't here somebody else would take up that role. Being the most left leaning person on this forum does not make me a "standard liberal." I disagree with liberals all the time. You just don't see that side of me because you're not a liberal and I don't contribute to echo chambers.

Right.

Whatever you say.....

[musiclady]

Whatever, all I am saying his intention is not motivated by political correctness.  Actually as far as Freemasonry goes I'm not sure what the point was.

Nonetheless, there was not a single fact in what was said.  Equating Santorum with Muslims was just plain dumb.

[bkepley]

I would call it 'intellectual dishonesty.'

I'm quite sure the fellow knows that equating Santorum with Muslims was just plain goofy, but from what I've seen, he says stupid stuff just to get a rise out of us.

He's playing a game, methinks.......... thus the ridiculous comments bearing no resemblance to 'facts.'

Maybe he believes his point of view is just as valid as yours and deserves to be considered?

[musiclady]

Maybe he believes his point of view is just as valid as yours and deserves to be considered?

No.  Not if doesn't bear any resemblance to the truth.

Comparing  Santorum to Islam was not just another opinion.  It was intellectually dishonest.

And both of you know it.

Unless you're both leftists, that is.........

[bkepley]

No.  Not if doesn't bear any resemblance to the truth.

Comparing  Santorum to Islam was not just another opinion.  It was intellectually dishonest.

And both of you know it.

Unless you're both leftists, that is.........

LOL

[DCPatriot]

No.  Not if doesn't bear any resemblance to the truth.

Comparing  Santorum to Islam was not just another opinion.  It was intellectually dishonest.

And both of you know it.

Unless you're both leftists, that is.........

    

[DCPatriot]

I want the record to show that I'm smiling and not "laughing out loud".   ^-^

[musiclady]

LOL

Well, in the interest of full disclosure, I don't know either you or Godzilla very well, and I've seen some, shall I say, incongruous comments from both of you, if I assume you're conservatives.

So, I'm stating outright that I really don't know where your loyalties lie, and it's not my place to accuse you of doing anything other than what I observe that you're doing....

...... that is, saying things that are completely inconsistent with conservatism.   ^-^

[musiclady]

I want the record to show that I'm smiling and not "laughing out loud".   ^-^

I saw that smile, DC.   

THIS.....    ........ is laughing out loud.

[DCPatriot]

I saw that smile, DC.   

THIS.....    ........ is laughing out loud.

Mine was a smile of approval to the point you were making.

His was a "is that all you got?" kind of a laugh.

dontcha think?     

[Godzilla]

Whatever, all I am saying his intention is not motivated by political correctness.  Actually as far as Freemasonry goes I'm not sure what the point was.

The principles behind the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were mainly Freemason concepts, ie: deist.  The founding fathers specifically went out of their way to avoid endorsing *ANY* religion in the documents.

[libertybele]

Jefferson was a deist.  Adams became a skeptic.  The constitution is clearly written to protect the goverment from any religion.

Freemasonry is NOT a religion.

[bkepley]

Freemasonry is NOT a religion.

Of course not.  I guess that was the point.

[Fishrrman]

I think the Constitution should be changed as well.

Let's start by changing Amendment #1 from this:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

to this:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. The followers of muhammed are specifically excluded and denied the protections of this amendment along with any and all other Constitutional protections. Neither the United States nor the Several States will offer such protections or liberties to the followers of muhammed."

[bkepley]

I think the Constitution should be changed as well.

Let's start by changing Amendment #1 from this:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

to this:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. The followers of muhammed are specifically excluded and denied the protections of this amendment along with any and all other Constitutional protections. Neither the United States nor the Several States will offer such protections or liberties to the followers of muhammed."

Pass.

[Paladin]

So, I'm stating outright that I really don't know where your loyalties lie, and it's not my place to accuse you of doing anything other than what I observe that you're doing....

...... that is, saying things that are completely inconsistent with conservatism.   ^-^

Quite agree, ML. There seem to be about 3 or 4 posters on here whose true political allegiances are questionable. That, however, is not really the problem. The real problem is their negativism which is combined with their periodic dishonesty which is combined with their constant presence here. It's as if they never take a break and are all on quite a few threads, possibly a majority of the threads. It's almost as if they are being paid by some group to be on here and thus have nothing but time to cause dissension.   

[Free Vulcan]

Quite agree, ML. There seem to be about 3 or 4 posters on here whose true political allegiances are questionable. That, however, is not really the problem. The real problem is their negativism which is combined with their periodic dishonesty which is combined with their constant presence here. It's as if they never take a break and are all on quite a few threads, possibly a majority of the threads. It's almost as if they are being paid by some group to be on here and thus have nothing but time to cause dissension.

Yep, smells like the same thing that goes on at FR.

[bkepley]

Yep, smells like the same thing that goes on at FR.

I sometimes think the opposite, that there are agents provocatuers here making the most thoughtless unconservative statements in order to ridicule them ala Stephen Colbert.

[alicewonders]

I sometimes think the opposite, that there are agents provocatuers here making the most thoughtless unconservative statements in order to ridicule them ala Stephen Colbert.

Sounds like someone is projecting. 

[DCPatriot]

I sometimes think the opposite, that there are agents provocatuers here making the most thoughtless unconservative statements in order to ridicule them ala Stephen Colbert.

Smell thyself, bkepley!   

[musiclady]

Mine was a smile of approval to the point you were making.

His was a "is that all you got?" kind of a laugh.

dontcha think?     

Yep.

[bkepley]

Yep.

And that from a guy who used to attack the Socons pretty hard.  I guess that since Trump is trying so hard to make nice with them he feels free to welcome the great unwashed back into the fold.