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Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« on: August 06, 2015, 05:14:57 pm »
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Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
Posted on August 5, 2015 by DCWhispers   


Though the Fox News promos state it is a debate of Republican candidates, most of the network’s on-air personalities have admitted publicly it has turned into the Donald Trump show as the top GOP contender has become the single most referenced topic on the minds of everyone following the 2016 Race for the White House.

That reality is not sitting well with GOP power brokers who are said to have made it clear to operatives linked to a variety of candidate camps that Donald Trump cannot be allowed to appear to win tomorrow night’s debate. Some are said to have taken an even more aggressive stance by indicating Trump’s Republican rivals are to “take him out” tomorrow night.



Trump has shocked the GOP establishment with his currently growing base of support based largely on his straight talk and a repeated promise to “Make America Great Again.”



That dominance is said to be facing its most focused challenge tomorrow night as Mr. Trump will be target #1 for a number of GOP hopefuls who have been told their own presidential hopes will be finished if they do not help in breaking the Trump momentum once and for all. This threat is said to come from an assortment of Wall Street and business interests concerned over the potential volatility of a Trump political machine – volatility that might make him “unmanageable” should he actually go on to become the Republican nominee.

It should also be noted some of these high-powered donors are helping to finance the campaigns of BOTH Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush. Presently, Donald Trump represents the single greatest threat to their intention of controlling the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.

Of the candidates who are said to have been given their anti-Trump marching orders last night, one was apparently told with the greatest sense of urgency – Senator Marco Rubio.



Senator Rubio is currently sitting near the bottom of the top-tier candidate rankings with just 5% support among Republican voters. He was not so long ago viewed by some to be a legitimate contender for the GOP nomination. If he is to regain that former momentum (and the all-important campaign dollars that come to a real contender) he must prove himself to the political donor class tomorrow night by coming out aggressively against Mr. Trump.

It was reportedly the Rubio campaign that was specifically given the directive to, “take Trump out” during this week’s debate.

 

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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2015, 05:16:22 pm »
This is crap. I want a debate, not a hit job.
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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2015, 05:21:46 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on August 06, 2015, 05:16:22 pm
This is crap. I want a debate, not a hit job.

It probably is crap.
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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2015, 05:26:08 pm »
Quote from: bkepley on August 06, 2015, 05:21:46 pm
It probably is crap.

I'd like to believe that, but seeing the only time the GOPe fights is against conservatives, I'm inclined to take it as true.
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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2015, 06:16:39 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on August 06, 2015, 05:16:22 pm
This is crap. I want a debate, not a hit job.

Rubio as the hit man?  Now that is funny.
Rubio is very smart and articulate but Trump would eat him alive.
About the only one tough enough to get Trump is Cruz.
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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2015, 06:27:38 pm »
Quote from: EdinVA on August 06, 2015, 06:16:39 pm
Rubio as the hit man?  Now that is funny.
Rubio is very smart and articulate but Trump would eat him alive.
About the only one tough enough to get Trump is Cruz.

Oh I don't know..get him riled and Trump vs. Christie could be entertaining.
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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2015, 06:39:03 pm »
Come on everybody.....use your noggins.

This many be a "dcwhispers" piece, but they are using a link to POLITICO for their sources.

For chrissakes....POLITICO is the LEFT.  How else do you account for their reporting ON THE EVE OF THE DEBATE, that Jeb Bush supposedly called Trump a "buffoon, clown and bleep" (quoting POLITICO...not my words).  Also, in the same piece say that Trump called Bill Clinton before he announced his candidacy?

They are trying to set Donald Trump up to go off on Bush and others tonight.

In the meantime, to throw another wrench into the MSM's wishes....Mayor Guiliani said that in Trump, we may have a "Little Reagan, here".    :laugh:
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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2015, 06:47:50 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on August 06, 2015, 06:39:03 pm
Come on everybody.....use your noggins.

This many be a "dcwhispers" piece, but they are using a link to POLITICO for their sources.

For chrissakes....POLITICO is the LEFT.  How else do you account for their reporting ON THE EVE OF THE DEBATE, that Jeb Bush supposedly called Trump a "buffoon, clown and bleep" (quoting POLITICO...not my words).  Also, in the same piece say that Trump called Bill Clinton before he announced his candidacy?

They are trying to set Donald Trump up to go off on Bush and others tonight.

In the meantime, to throw another wrench into the MSM's wishes....Mayor Guiliani said that in Trump, we may have a "Little Reagan, here".    :laugh:

Maybe a little Conrad Dobler action?
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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2015, 08:03:24 pm »
So, I'm thinking Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner should jump into the race.

He's a Republican, and think of the money the nation would save.

He'd be both POTUS and FLOTUS.

We'd save money on Secret Service details.

State dinners would have the taxpayer only dishing money out for one formal outfit.

It's worth a thought.
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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2015, 09:05:56 pm »
Trump is a thorn in the GOPe's side.  The initial plan and their "golden" boy was to be Bush and by all indications Rubio was going to be his VP pick, but Bush is an uncertainty right now and Rubio doesn't have the draw that the GOPe thought. Trump, Walker, Huckabee, Carson and Cruz are all polling in front of him.  The GOPe is I am sure becoming a tad nervous.  Of course...its very early.

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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2015, 09:24:29 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on August 06, 2015, 05:14:57 pm
Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”

Be kinda nice to have some names...  jes fer grins...


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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2015, 12:58:10 pm »
Obviously, the big donors told Faux News to take Trump out, not the candidates.
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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2015, 01:01:10 pm »
Quote from: MBB1984 on August 07, 2015, 12:58:10 pm
Obviously, the big donors told Faux News to take Trump out, not the candidates.

Agree.  It was a fox hit job...
Why did they not ask Fiorina about HER contributions to democrats?
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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2015, 01:03:26 pm »
Quote from: MBB1984 on August 07, 2015, 12:58:10 pm
Obviously, the big donors told Faux News to take Trump out, not the candidates.

You must not have much confidence in Trump but that's understandable.
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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2015, 01:23:13 pm »
Quote from: EdinVA on August 07, 2015, 01:01:10 pm
Agree.  It was a fox hit job...
Why did they not ask Fiorina about HER contributions to democrats?

Of course big business donates to both sides... they have to because our entire government is for sale and if you don't... your competitor will.

The whole purpose of that crap is to 'spin' everything in a certain way.  Truth is irrelevant to these people.

Most people don't think outside the box they are in...

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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2015, 01:50:43 pm »
Quote from: EdinVA on August 07, 2015, 01:01:10 pm
Why did they not ask Fiorina about HER contributions to democrats?

Sorry, this is no jab.

Do you have a link showing that she personally contributed to the Dems? Not HP - that's a given since they are based in California where it is very much "pay to play" - but her out of her own pocket. I haven't seen anything like that yet.
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2015, 02:04:28 pm »
Quote from: EC on August 07, 2015, 01:50:43 pm
Sorry, this is no jab.

Do you have a link showing that she personally contributed to the Dems? Not HP - that's a given since they are based in California where it is very much "pay to play" - but her out of her own pocket. I haven't seen anything like that yet.

Have you the same for Trump?
When he says yes, he donated, he is Trump inc.  He has pac's that he passes money thru.
Fiorina has the luxury of hiding behind someone elses pac.

But here is what I put on another thread...
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,176798.msg695329.html#msg695329
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2015, 02:22:13 pm »
Thanks for that! She contributed to her companies PAC, pretty much obligatory for a CEO, which split the money 50:50 (roughly) between Democrats and Republicans is my understanding of your post and the link you got it from. Not exactly a smoking gun.  :shrug:

Not as good as Trump, to be fair : http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jul/09/ben-ferguson/donald-trumps-campaign-contributions-democrats-and/ he's really ramped up Contributions to Repubs in recent years.

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Since 2012, Trump has donated $463,450 to Republicans and just $3,500 to Democrats (California Attorney General Kamala Harris and New York Assemblyman Michael Benedetto). - from link.

Business is pay to play, simple as that. Any candidate, on either side, who has business experience is going to have some donations the purists can call questionable.
It's why I asked specifically about contributions from her own pocket and personally - those are a different breed of beast from what the company has to do.
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2015, 02:34:06 pm »
Quote from: EC on August 07, 2015, 02:22:13 pm
Thanks for that! She contributed to her companies PAC, pretty much obligatory for a CEO, which split the money 50:50 (roughly) between Democrats and Republicans is my understanding of your post and the link you got it from. Not exactly a smoking gun.  :shrug:

Not as good as Trump, to be fair : http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jul/09/ben-ferguson/donald-trumps-campaign-contributions-democrats-and/ he's really ramped up Contributions to Repubs in recent years.

Business is pay to play, simple as that. Any candidate, on either side, who has business experience is going to have some donations the purists can call questionable.
It's why I asked specifically about contributions from her own pocket and personally - those are a different breed of beast from what the company has to do.

It was not intended to be a "smoking" gun, just trying to illustrate your point that you pay to play and that slamming trump over contributions to dems and not slamming fiorina was an obvious hit by fox.
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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2015, 02:44:32 pm »
If she gets the poll bounce I confidently expect she will from her performance last night, no doubt it will come out as a weapon in the next debate. When she's at the top table!  :laugh:

I'll criticise Trump for a lot of things (and do) but running his business is rarely going to be one (though I have the odd problem with some of his business ethics, but then again I'm not a billionaire for a reason  :tongue2: )

I'd love to see one of the candidates turn the tables on the journos - both Fiorina and Trump could hit this out of the park if they wished - and ask why a business paying to play is somehow dirty while newsies paying for access is noble  :beer:
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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2015, 02:53:46 pm »
Quote from: EC on August 07, 2015, 02:44:32 pm
If she gets the poll bounce I confidently expect she will from her performance last night, no doubt it will come out as a weapon in the next debate. When she's at the top table!  :laugh:

I'll criticise Trump for a lot of things (and do) but running his business is rarely going to be one (though I have the odd problem with some of his business ethics, but then again I'm not a billionaire for a reason  :tongue2: )

I'd love to see one of the candidates turn the tables on the journos - both Fiorina and Trump could hit this out of the park if they wished - and ask why a business paying to play is somehow dirty while newsies paying for access is noble  :beer:

The other thing I think is interesting, Trump explained that is the way business is done these days and that is what is wrong with the system, but it seems no one caught that...
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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2015, 04:24:15 pm »
Quote from: bkepley on August 07, 2015, 01:03:26 pm
You must not have much confidence in Trump but that's understandable.

I have zero confidence in the GOP establishment donors to abide by any semplance of fair play.
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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2015, 04:44:19 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on August 06, 2015, 09:05:56 pm
Trump is a thorn in the GOPe's side.  The initial plan and their "golden" boy was to be Bush and by all indications Rubio was going to be his VP pick,

Except they can't be from the same state. So that begs the question, what is your source for the claim, anyway?

To me "all indications" would be knowledgeable about that qualification, so the source must be very, very low information.
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2015, 04:55:58 pm »
Quote from: MBB1984 on August 07, 2015, 04:24:15 pm
I have zero confidence in the GOP establishment donors to abide by any semplance of fair play.

You don't expect them to take money out of their pocket to support policies that will put it in yours, do you?

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Re: Big Donors Warn Candidates On Eve Of Debate: “Take Trump Out”
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2015, 09:15:20 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on August 07, 2015, 04:44:19 pm
Except they can't be from the same state. So that begs the question, what is your source for the claim, anyway?

To me "all indications" would be knowledgeable about that qualification, so the source must be very, very low information.

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