Pope to Ease Way for Forgiving 'Sin of Abortion' in Holy Year

[aligncare]

Heh, heh.  Someone should write a book.  I'd guess few here today have a clue what we're even talking about...hopefully!   

I sort of remember WA, but the details are fuzzy.

MAC. Did you hop over to The Fort after the demise of Wide Awakes? That's the route I took before someone mercifully invited me here. It's been all good ever since.

[sinkspur]

I disagree with His Holiness on this...nuff said.

Then you must believe there are sins that can't be forgiven. That is not the teaching of any Church, to my knowledge, especially the Catholic Church.

And it is certainly not the teaching of Jesus.

[sinkspur]

You ask God's forgiveness not a stand in. Go to the real forgiver. The pope is a joke. I was raised Catholic so don't say I have no knowledge of this religion because I do have knowledge and a bible to check this religions accuracy. I can say that this is not the one true church not even close and this pope is so not a Christian.

You are a bigot. Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it to everybody.

[sinkspur]

Does God forgive all who truly repents...even the most heinous amongst us....Like abortion Dr Gosnell who murdered hundreds, thousands of babies....can God forgive such a monster or will he too be so appalled he would condemn him to Hell?





btw..I am breaking one of my own rules...discussing religion..lol :

No sin is unforgiveable if the pentent earnestly seeks forgiveness and pledges not to sin again. God is all merciful.  The story of the Prodigal Son indicates the attitude of the Father to us, his wayward children.

[MACVSOG68]

I sort of remember WA, but the details are fuzzy.

MAC. Did you hop over to The Fort after the demise of Wide Awakes? That's the route I took before someone mercifully invited me here. It's been all good ever since.

Yes, with a couple of stops in between.  Then there was Fort2 which I think only lasted a short time.  Quite a few came and went after the big TOS purge in 2007.  There's still one around directly emanating from the WA revolt and demise I believe, but this is the most comfortable of all of them, even though I don't spend as much time as I used to.  But I don't want to hijack the thread.   

[mystery-ak]

Heh, heh.  Someone should write a book.  I'd guess few here today have a clue what we're even talking about...hopefully!   

I must say..those that were involved in the coup had great fun in planning it...and it was planned and executed well!

[mystery-ak]

Then you must believe there are sins that can't be forgiven. That is not the teaching of any Church, to my knowledge, especially the Catholic Church.

And it is certainly not the teaching of Jesus.

Yes..I know it's the teaching of Jesus...my rhetorical question can only be answered by God...guess I will have to wait and see

[ABX]

God forgives ALL sins, not just SMALL sins.

[mystery-ak]

God did not forgive all sins...especially the people of Sodom...but that's a whole other discussion.

[sinkspur]

God did not forgive all sins...especially the people of Sodom...but that's a whole other discussion.

 Repentance is necessary for the forgiveness of sin.

The only unforgiveable sin is believing that you have committed a sin so bad that God cannot forgive it.

[Bigun]

Does God forgive all who truly repents...even the most heinous amongst us....Like abortion Dr Gosnell who murdered hundreds, thousands of babies....can God forgive such a monster or will he too be so appalled he would condemn him to Hell?





btw..I am breaking one of my own rules...discussing religion..lol

It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Luke 17:2

[MACVSOG68]

I must say..those that were involved in the coup had great fun in planning it...and it was planned and executed well!

Indeed, it came as quite a surprise to most of us there.  Sure glad no one here had anything to do with it...

[mystery-ak]

Indeed, it came as quite a surprise to most of us there.  Sure glad no one here had anything to do with it...

 

[ABX]

Repentance is necessary for the forgiveness of sin.

The only unforgiveable sin is believing that you have committed a sin so bad that God cannot forgive it.

When one goes to a priest asking for absolution, they are repenting. This isn't blowing off the sin. Darn, I agree with sink twice in a week.

[mountaineer]

You are a bigot. Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it to everybody.

Namecalling is not quite the same as serious and civil discussion.
raml merely expressed an opinion based on personal experience. That you disagree with raml's opinion doesn't mean hers was bigoted.

[Fishrrman]

"Is the Pope Catholic?"

Well, he used to be...

[DCPatriot]

There's a reason why the College of Cardinals preferred Cardinals of Italian descent to be elected to the Papacy. 

We Conservative Catholics had our 'Ronald Reagan' of Popes in the Polish guy.  Karol Józef Wojtyła, aka Pope John Paul II.  He was part of the trinity (Thatcher/Reagan) that brought upon the Soviet Union's demise.   Without firing a shot.

It was a proud 'moment' for us.

So, for some strange reason, let's do it again.  This time, we'll pick a humble, good man.....who's an anti-Capitalist Socialist.  From freaking South America!!

Obama.....Jorge Mario Bergoglio.

It's like gasoline sitting next to a bonfire.

[Luis Gonzalez]

I must say..those that were involved in the coup had great fun in planning it...and it was planned and executed well!

[Luis Gonzalez]

You ask God's forgiveness not a stand in. Go to the real forgiver. The pope is a joke. I was raised Catholic so don't say I have no knowledge of this religion because I do have knowledge and a bible to check this religions accuracy. I can say that this is not the one true church not even close and this pope is so not a Christian.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDjABe_IgWM

[Luis Gonzalez]

Yes..I know it's the teaching of Jesus...my rhetorical question can only be answered by God...guess I will have to wait and see

The question has already been answered.

“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9)

I see no qualifiers or exceptions there, do you?

[Luis Gonzalez]

When one goes to a priest asking for absolution, they are repenting. This isn't blowing off the sin. Darn, I agree with sink twice in a week.

Oh s#it.

It's the beginning of the Zombie Apocalyse for sure now.

[mrclose]

Does God forgive all who truly repents...even the most heinous amongst us....Like abortion Dr Gosnell who murdered hundreds, thousands of babies....can God forgive such a monster or will he too be so appalled he would condemn him to Hell?

btw..I am breaking one of my own rules...discussing religion..lol

No, He doesn't.

Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable.

Matthew 12:31 Jesus says, "And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven."

[sinkspur]

Namecalling is not quite the same as serious and civil discussion.
raml merely expressed an opinion based on personal experience. That you disagree with raml's opinion doesn't mean hers was bigoted.

Sorry, I've been through these dust ups with raml before. She despises the Catholic Church and all things Catholic. Nothing about her post was civil.

Bigot was an appropriate accusation.

[sinkspur]

No, He doesn't.

Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable.

And what do you think that is?  It is, in fact, the mistaken assumption that there is a sin or sins that God cannot forgive.  The Spirit moves us toward forgiveness, and we ignore Him when we think we're so bad God cannot reach us.

[mrclose]

And what do you think that is?  It is, in fact, the mistaken assumption that there is a sin or sins that God cannot forgive.  The Spirit moves us toward forgiveness, and we ignore Him when we think we're so bad God cannot reach us.

I have no idea what you just wrote?

Jesus said it so I believe it!

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit in the days of Jesus was committed by the the Pharisees, having witnessed irrefutable proof that Jesus was working miracles in the power of the Holy Spirit, claimed instead that the Lord was possessed by the demon “Beelzebub” (Matthew 12:24).

This blasphemy has to do with someone accusing Jesus Christ of being demon-possessed instead of Spirit-filled.


The blasphemy of the Spirit today, which is the same as the unpardonable sin, is the state of continued unbelief.

There is no pardon for a person who dies in unbelief.

Continual rejection of the Holy Spirit’s promptings to trust in Jesus Christ is the unpardonable blasphemy against Him.