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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/09/11/New-Hampshire-Rand-Paul-Vows-To-Repeal-Every-Prior-Executive-Order-If-Elected-President

 by Matthew Boyle 11 Sep 2014

MANCHESTER, New Hampshire — In front of a boisterous pub crowd of young voters here, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) ripped into President Obama over executive overreach and even vowed to repeal “all previous executive orders” in one of his first acts as president, should he run.

Paul’s comments came to the New Hampshire chapter of Generation Opportunity, a national grassroots conservative group with a libertarian appeal with thousands of young liberty-minded activists nationwide engaged through it.

Paul focused much of his remarks on executive overreach by President Barack Obama, saving some of his most interesting points for a question-and-answer session at the end.

“There’s a rumor going around you might run for president in a couple years,” a young man shouted as Paul took questions from the audience for several minutes after a 15-plus-minute speech.

“Man, who started that?” Paul joked with the man, who was in his mid-20s.

“I know, it’s crazy,” the young man followed up. “You spoke for a bit on the executive orders tonight. If you were to receive the presidency would you repeal previous executive orders and restrain the power of the presidency?”

“I think the first executive order that I would issue would be to repeal all previous executive orders,” Paul replied to resounding cheers through the Manchester pub, named for the beer bearing the namesakes of American revolutionary Sam Adams. “Democracy is messy, but you have to build consensus to pass things. But it’s also in some ways good, because a lot of laws take away your freedom. So it should be hard to pass a law. And it, frankly, when you do it the proper way, is. We’ve done way too many things [the wrong way]: Signing statements, altering legislation by the president, are wrong and unconstitutional and shouldn’t happen. Executive orders shouldn’t either.”

“Absolutely,” the man shouted back at Paul. “You should run.”

While he's not officially running for president – yet – Paul recently told Breitbart News he will decide whether to make a bid for the Oval Office by next spring, and his trip to New Hampshire, the site of the nation's first presidential primary, is one of many trips he's taken to key states over the past two years.

In a brief interview with Breitbart News outside after the speech and question-and-answer session, Paul said he thinks the president’s executive overreaches are massively unpopular nationwide and will have electoral consequences for candidates in races ranging from this year’s Senate races to 2016’s presidential contest.

“I’m very serious that the biggest problem with President Obama is his usurpation of power, destroying the separation of powers and not believing there are any checks and balances and believing that the executive branch can do whatever it wants—and this is exemplified in immigration, Obamacare and more—but really it’s the most seriously destructive thing he’s doing to this country,” Paul said. “While Obamacare’s bad, Dodd-Frank is bad, immigration is bad, the problem is is he’s doing it in an unconstitutional way. You can see how the crowd really understands that. The problem is he’s acting like a legislature.”

Before Paul spoke at the event, his staff kicked out liberal operatives there to videotape him to use it to attack him—called "trackers" in professional politics—from American Bridge.

“They say that if you’re not drawing flak, you’re not over the target,” Paul said when asked for his reaction to the fact that liberal groups like American Bridge are targeting him. “So I think that they’re sensitive, and I think they’re also very aware—and I didn’t get into it so much tonight, but I think that my discussion of Hillary Clinton and the disaster that she was a part of in Libya in Benghazi and now with the chaos in Libya—that that’s really hitting the mark and that she’s going to have a tough time really getting beyond that and they’re really sensing that. They’ll get more of it tomorrow too.”

Paul’s reason for being in New Hampshire is a series of events he’ll attend with Scott Brown and other Republican candidates on Friday, including a post-primary “unity breakfast," to unite the party here behind Brown heading into November's battle with Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH). But it certainly didn’t hurt a likely 2016 candidate like Paul to hit up the bar with conservative college-age or just-out-of-college kids from Manchester while in town.

“How many people here have a cell phone?” Paul asked to open up his speech, as many held theirs up to show him. “How many people think it’s none of the government’s damn business what you have on your cell phone?”

“None!” everyone shouted.

“I’ve been thinking that’s true,” Paul joked. “But I’m really, really worried about Anthony Weiner. Because you know he likes to take his selfies, and he’s had trouble finding a place to put them where the government can’t find them. So I’m thinking maybe Anthony Weiner should put his selfie in Lois Lerner’s emails.”

The crowd of 200 strong, mostly young people under 30, at tonight’s event is a sign Paul’s conservative libertarianism is catching fire in “Live Free or Die” New Hampshire. Paul criticized the left’s immigration policies, Hillary Clinton’s and President Obama’s foreign policy, and big government Republicans like Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who he didn’t name but specifically referenced at least once, mixing all that together with his libertarian messaging of demanding America "rethink the war on drugs” and protect constitutional liberties of Americans—a theme he hit in his Senate floor filibuster.

One questioner asked Paul to comment on “Barack Obama’s constitutional authority—or lack thereof—to legalize illegal aliens.”

“It’s not been one thing, it’s been many things,” Paul responded. “It’s been immigration, it’s been healthcare reform as well as war powers. He thinks he can do anything. In frankly almost all of these areas he’s usurped his authority. It’s wrong from a constitutional perspective. I think with DACA [the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals executive amnesty], he has no authority to do DACA. Not only is it wrong from a constitutional perspective but then in doing so it becomes something that really messes up the border. It screws things up because if you provide sort of a beacon, or a grant of forgiveness to people and say ‘this is okay’ without securing the border, what does that tell everybody else in Central America? ‘Hey guys, it’s open season, let’s move to the United States.’ So 50,000 kids have come also because of this Wilberforce Act which says we’re going to treat people differently if they come to the United States from a country other than Mexico. So, 50,000 kids are here.”

Paul argued too that it’s not anti-immigrant to oppose amnesty and executive orders like the one President Obama has now delayed past the election. “We have to be a part—and I am a person who is part of a party—who I think does and should look at immigrants as assets,” Paul said. “I was in Guatemala a couple weeks ago, and my main conversation with the president there was we would like more adoption of Guatemalan children. There are thousands of Americans who would adopt Guatemalan children. I don’t want to be the party that is against Guatemalan kids, but I do want to be the party that is for enforcing the rule of law and says we can’t have just everybody come whenever they want to.”

Earlier, during his remarks, Paul hammered Obama on his use of executive authority. “[Abraham] Lincoln wrote that any man can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power,” Paul said. “I think this president has failed that test at every turn because this president has said that ‘oh, well, Democracy is messy and Congress won’t give me what I want.’ A direct quote from one of his people about two weeks they said, ‘he has no choice but to act.’ It sounds like we live in some kind of third world place where the president does whatever he wants. This is the idea that the presidency is run amok. I was talking to one of you earlier and you said it didn’t start with him—you’re right. It’s gone on for a hundred years, and progressively has gotten worse, Republicans and Democratic administrations, with more and more power accumulating in the presidency.”

Paul continued by noting that he thinks Obama’s executive overreaches are worse than any individual policies he’s pushed. “The worst thing this president has done is not Obamacare,” Paul said. “It’s not Dodd-Frank. And they’re horrible. They’re terrible. They’re the worst pieces of legislation in a couple decades. But the worst thing this president has done is run roughshod over the separation of powers.”

Paul shifted into criticizing the president on ISIS, saying “there’s a big deal going on in the Middle East right now called ISIS”—noting how he thinks they’re a threat to America, and to America’s embassies and consulates worldwide.

“We have to understand how we got here because if we don’t, we’re doomed to repeat this over and over again,” Paul said. “We’ve done this in several countries. Several secular dictators have fallen in Libya, in Egypt, nearly so in Syria, and in Iraq. What was the commonality between those secular dictators? [They were] bad people. Authoritarians. Human rights abusers. In Syria, gassing their own people. However, what was the other commonality between all these secular dictators? They disliked radical Islam. They kept radical Islam at bay. So what has happened as we got rid of the secular dictator in Libya? You got radical jihadists, radical Islam run amok, in Libya. They're swimming in our embassy’s swimming pool. As a consequence though, we react—and I think this time we actually have to do something. So I’m not for completely doing nothing. I am for doing something to stop ISIS—we should do it constitutionally though. We have separation of powers between the branches of government. Our constitution said very clearly the power to declare war was a congressional power.”
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Re: Rand Paul Vows to Repeal Every Prior Executive Order if Elected President
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2014, 02:22:36 pm »
That's classic Rand Paul!    :amen:
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Re: Rand Paul Vows to Repeal Every Prior Executive Order if Elected President
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2014, 03:52:59 pm »
I love Paul. My concern is he's only a half term senator — and, Americans tend to prefer governors for the job of president.

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Re: Rand Paul Vows to Repeal Every Prior Executive Order if Elected President
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2014, 03:56:34 pm »
I love Paul. My concern is he's only a half term senator — and, Americans tend to prefer governors for the job of president.

Agree AC.  I think Governors make better presidents.  Right now, I wouldn't mind a Rick Perry ticket with Rand Paul as VP.  Not sure if Paul would ever do that, but that would be a powerful ticket in my book.

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Re: Rand Paul Vows to Repeal Every Prior Executive Order if Elected President
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2014, 04:09:01 pm »
I like that ticket. While Paul represents my views on the fed gov's role, the Constitution and liberty, I wonder whether his chances would be hurt by being the son of Ron who has gotten, unfairly in my view, a reputation as being a kook..

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Re: Rand Paul Vows to Repeal Every Prior Executive Order if Elected President
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2014, 04:18:05 pm »
I like that ticket. While Paul represents my views on the fed gov's role, the Constitution and liberty, I wonder whether his chances would be hurt by being the son of Ron who has gotten, unfairly in my view, a reputation as being a kook..

Rand seems to be able to draw on his father's popularity with young people.  I'm sure that the establishment types that don't want the GOP candidate to be tea party or libertarian are already planning their commercials against Rand Paul using that theme of tying him to his father.  No doubt that will happen. 

But, I think Rand is pretty astute when it comes to politics and I'm sure he has anticipated that - he'll be ready for it. 

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Re: Rand Paul Vows to Repeal Every Prior Executive Order if Elected President
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2014, 04:51:30 pm »
Good points. Every time I hear Rand speak, I am impressed. He does have a way of connecting with the listener.

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Re: Rand Paul Vows to Repeal Every Prior Executive Order if Elected President
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2014, 05:08:53 pm »
Agree AC.  I think Governors make better presidents.  Right now, I wouldn't mind a Rick Perry ticket with Rand Paul as VP.  Not sure if Paul would ever do that, but that would be a powerful ticket in my book.

At this point, Rand Paul is running for Veep.  However, if you want him on the ticket then you had better vote for him for president in the primaries because the only way Rick Perry, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush or Scott Walker would put him on the ticket is if he were able to move a significant number of voters to vote for him.

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Re: Rand Paul Vows to Repeal Every Prior Executive Order if Elected President
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2014, 06:07:21 pm »
At this point, Rand Paul is running for Veep.  However, if you want him on the ticket then you had better vote for him for president in the primaries because the only way Rick Perry, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush or Scott Walker would put him on the ticket is if he were able to move a significant number of voters to vote for him.

Totally agree.  That could lock up the White House for years.
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Re: Rand Paul Vows to Repeal Every Prior Executive Order if Elected President
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2014, 06:44:44 pm »
Every single one, going all the way back to any still-extant orders signed by Geo. Washington?

That's a really dumb idea.

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Re: Rand Paul Vows to Repeal Every Prior Executive Order if Elected President
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2014, 12:52:54 am »
Every single one, going all the way back to any still-extant orders signed by Geo. Washington?

That's a really dumb idea.
Yeah, I'd settle for those in the last decade, or most of them, anyway.
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2014, 02:51:00 am »
Yeah, I'd settle for those in the last decade, or most of them, anyway.

I'd settle for a principled pruning with a view to retaining only those that really matter.

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Re: Rand Paul Vows to Repeal Every Prior Executive Order if Elected President
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2014, 12:58:31 pm »
Every single one, going all the way back to any still-extant orders signed by Geo. Washington?

That's a really dumb idea.

It would be interesting to know what, exactly, the federal government does as a result of executive order and what it does as a matter of law.  I don't suspect there is much in terms of consequential executive orders that go back farther than GWB.  However, it would be interesting to know.

Just because a president overturns all executive orders that would not prevent him from issuing new ones in their stead.  Kind of like firing the whole cabinet and then figuring out which ones will get to keep their jobs.  By repealing every old one you force yourself to evaluate each one on its merits and cleanse the books.

Personally, I think we need a president who thinks about having fewer laws and regulations rather than more of them.  In this day and age, if I were POTUS I'd measure my legacy based on how many laws I was able to repeal while I was in office.  That includes EOs.

Paul's approach is refreshing. 
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Re: Rand Paul Vows to Repeal Every Prior Executive Order if Elected President
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2014, 01:25:26 pm »
I'd settle for a principled pruning with a view to retaining only those that really matter.
Exactly.

Edit to add: someone posted this story on Facebook and my response was that it was like doing surgery with a chainsaw. It well may be that 60 or 80 or even 99 percent of EOs are bad and should be rescinded, but let's make sure first.
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Re: Rand Paul Vows to Repeal Every Prior Executive Order if Elected President
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2014, 02:30:33 am »
mass wrote above:
[[ I don't suspect there is much in terms of consequential executive orders that go back farther than GWB.  However, it would be interesting to know. ]]

I can think of at least one:
The EPA -- created by an executive order issued by Richard Nixon.

That certainly has proved "consequential" in American life and liberty!

I agree with Paul.
Repeal 'em all !!
(and let Congress sort it out!)

(haven't I heard something along that line before...?)

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Re: Rand Paul Vows to Repeal Every Prior Executive Order if Elected President
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2014, 03:53:36 am »
I'd settle for a principled pruning with a view to retaining only those that really matter.

Yes. Simple answers and magic bullets don't work any better on the right side than they do on the left. Some of those executive orders might have had a lot of thought go into them, and they shouldn't be cavalierly dismissed just because there were others that didn't.