The Lesson of Dunkirk It’s one Ted Cruz Republicans must learn. Thomas Sowell

[Formerly Once-Ler]

I gave you one. George Will editorial, Washington Post, November 12, 1974, "Ronald Reagan, the GOP and '76."

No you didn't you told me to buy an article from the WaPo.  What did Will say?

And his was by no means the only attack on Ronald Reagan by establishment Republicans for challenging the moderate-to-liberal sitting Pres. Gerald Ford.

Yes, there are hundreds of examples from 1976 and 1980. Reagan threatened the status quo, just as  Cruz is threatening the status quote today.

Great give me 2 examples.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

You believe Cruz is giving the GOP a black eye to advance his agenda?....and you get this information from the liberal press that is their job to destroy the GOP and advance liberal causes?

No I got my information from the WSJ, Sowell, Will, Coulter, Charen and others.

[alicewonders]

So, a Marxist president can do whatever he wants? And, nothing in the Constitution gives the minority, these so-called Cruz Republicans, a way of fighting back? Capitulate? That's Sowell's Solution?

He's wrong. We use this and every step of our resistance as a teachable moment for the electorate to learn the difference between fascism and freedom. We don't "win to fight" we "fight to win," to repeat something Mark Levin said last night. We draw clear bold lines that highlight our difference with the socialists in Congress and the Marxist in the White House. That's how we win converts.

Thank you AC - this is it in a nutshell!  "We don't "win to fight" we "fight to win," to repeat something Mark Levin said last night."  It bears repeating, for this is our battle cry!

FREEDOM!

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Levin's take (audio):

Mark Levin: A look back at the attacks on Reagan, how they are similar to attacks on conservatives today

http://therightscoop.com/mark-levin-a-look-back-at-the-attacks-on-reagan-how-they-are-similar-to-attacks-on-conservatives-today/

Thanx for posting that.

It is clear some of the GOPe complaints about Reagan in 1976 are similar to the GOPe complaints against Cruz today. Other criticisms of Reagan, that he was the wrong man at the wrong time, could be true.  Proof of that is he couldn't win the 76 primaries.

Some of the critisism is clearly different like George Will pointing out Reagan was 63 in 1976 and not as physically attractive as he used to be, which I think is as fair a comment as conservatives pointing out McCain's age.  Will continues to point out Reagan had not demonstrated national appeal. 

He then goes on to paint Reagan supporters as "kamakaze conservatives" who long for the electoral disaster that was Goldwater 64.  Now that sounds like today's complaints about Cruz.  Criticism that Reagan was far out of the centrist stream is also similar to today's GOPe criticism.  As are claims that Reagan was hurting the part.

So I will concede that there are some interesting similarities to GOPe attacks on Cruz and GOPe attacks on Reagan in 76. 

Thanx for providing evidence.

[sinkspur]

By all means, let's make an icon of a talk show host who calls anyone who disagrees with him a "jerk" and cuts that person off.

Mark Levin is approaching Michael Savage status as the face of an unhinged, angry conservatism.

Nobody buys anything from an angry person.

[alicewonders]

By all means, let's make an icon of a talk show host who calls anyone who disagrees with him a "jerk" and cuts that person off.

Mark Levin is approaching Michael Savage status as the face of an unhinged, angry conservatism.

Nobody buys anything from an angry person.

If what is going on in Washington right now doesn't make a person angry - then they are dead inside.

[alicewonders]

Not really.  Many (myself included) wanted them to not "raise" it at all.  (And can we call a spade, a spade?  What they've done is SUSPENDED it, not raised it.  They've done this the last couple of times as well.  Personally I never thought this nation would devolve to the point that we pass legislation that pretends that things like a Debt Ceiling simply don't exist.  But that may just be me....)

And before we stoop to the level of entertaining the utter BS about "default" that is spread around by the media and political establishment (that would be both "parties" for those that seem to have a difficult time facing reality), the FACT of the matter is that this behemoth sucks out enough dollars on a monthly and annual basis to more than adequately service the debt.  At this point the administration would have to explicitly direct the Treasury to default for other reasons, certainly not a lack of incoming revenue.  So do we need to accept the fact that we are at the point of being complete hostages to what this monster may do?  Oh, if we don't cooperate and authorize taking on more debt onto the pile that is already far too high to ever pay down, they might default on some obligations??  If we've reached that point (and apparently we have), it is all over but for the singing...

And maybe it is high time to start to insist that we deal in FACTS rather than that so so scary "perception" that so many are concerned with.  Dealing with, and trying to manage perceptions (while ignoring facts!), has contributed a great deal to why we have arrived at the point we have.  And why are any of us supposed to believe that any of these mighty providers of "perception" are worth a damn to begin with??  Polling?  Seriously?  Everybody here knows damn well you can get any result that you want when you poll, so why even entertain these results as anything more than they are, tools of spin.

But let me take it a step further.....  let's pretend that the polls are accurate?  Does that imply that principles (which at this point are about the survival of the Republic (and no less)) should be set aside because of "popular opinion?"  Let the beast float right over the edge, because people won't "like us" if we try to stop it??  Really?


Would it be too much to ask to have one of our supposed "leaders" get up in front of the press and dispel the BS about "default" that comes up every time we arrive at this point?  Too much for them to have a couple of simple charts that show the FACTS about the incoming tax revenue and the current debt obligations?  Maybe make a statement as to the fact that while we are able to service it now, we certainly won't be able to in the not too distant future, ESPECIALLY IF WE KEEP ADDING MORE TO THE MOUNTAIN??  Is this really too much to expect?  I guess that it is, sadly.

           

[sinkspur]

If what is going on in Washington right now doesn't make a person angry - then they are dead inside.

Most Americans are living their lives, sending their kids to school, going to their jobs, enjoying their weekends.  Most of these people are not angry and they are far from "dead inside."

If you're angry, you might ask yourself why.  People get angry when things don't go the way they want them to go. 
 
Why must things always go the way I want them to?  Anyway, they won't, and getting angry only harms me; it never harms the object of my anger.

It is such a waste of energy to be angry.

[happyg]

Most Americans are living their lives, sending their kids to school, going to their jobs, enjoying their weekends.  Most of these people are not angry and they are far from "dead inside."

If you're angry, you might ask yourself why.  People get angry when things don't go the way they want them to go. 
 
Why must things always go the way I want them to?  Anyway, they won't, and getting angry only harms me; it never harms the object of my anger.

It is such a waste of energy to be angry.

Evidently, your kids aren't going to a public school. Parents all over are getting angry with our education system. Not enough are going to jobs because they don't exist or are part time. Many don't enjoy weekends because they are working a 2nd job.

Who's angry because things don't go their way? I'm angry because we have a Constitution that is being ignored and considered "out-dated". That is what makes me mad. It's not about me, but my children, grandchildren and your children and grandchildren.

I would rather 'waste' my energy and time trying to make things better, than not doing anything at all. Germany did that.

[massadvj]

Getting angry only harms me; it never harms the object of my anger.

Spoken like a true obsessive compulsive who spends countless hours every day trolling and agitating for the express purpose of provoking anger in others, because he can't seem to deal with his own psychological issues. You presume to lecture others on anger?  Heal thyself.

[Lipstick on a Hillary]

Most Americans are living their lives, sending their kids to school, going to their jobs, enjoying their weekends.  Most of these people are not angry and they are far from "dead inside."

If you're angry, you might ask yourself why.  People get angry when things don't go the way they want them to go. 
 
Why must things always go the way I want them to?  Anyway, they won't, and getting angry only harms me; it never harms the object of my anger.

It is such a waste of energy to be angry.

ROFL!   You're the one who's been obsessively running back and forth from thread to thread, lifting up anyone who supports the GOPe, and ripping anyone who supports Ted Cruz.

And you lecture *US* about anger?   

[sinkspur]

Spoken like a true obsessive compulsive who spends countless hours every day trolling and agitating for the express purpose of provoking anger in others, because he can't seem to deal with his own psychological issues. You presume to lecture others on anger?  Heal thyself.

Angry much?

[sinkspur]

ROFL!   You're the one who's been obsessively running back and forth from thread to thread, lifting up anyone who supports the GOPe, and ripping anyone who supports Ted Cruz.

And you lecture *US* about anger?   

I'm not lecturing anybody.  If it doesn't fit, just ignore it. 

[mountaineer]

Permit me to summarize: Sink and a handful of other posters here don't like Ted Cruz. The majority of posters here, however, think Sen. Cruz is doing the right thing.

So why do we keep rehashing and regurgitating the same stuff over and over? We get it, already.

[sinkspur]

Permit me to summarize: Sink and a handful of other posters here don't like Ted Cruz. The majority of posters here, however, think Sen. Cruz is doing the right thing.

So why do we keep rehashing and regurgitating the same stuff over and over? We get it, already.

Exactly.  I've only posted one Ted Cruz article in the last few days.  ALL THE OTHERS were posted by other posters, some who  really back Cruz.

[mountaineer]

Exactly.  I've only posted one Ted Cruz article in the last few days.  ALL THE OTHERS were posted by other posters, some who  really back Cruz.

Then give it a rest. Please.

[Lando Lincoln]

Sink... you know I support you.  Always have.  Maybe take a breather.  Get some fresh air with the dogs.  Really.

[Lipstick on a Hillary]

Angry much?

I bet I'm not the only one here who thinks his observation is spot on.  Even your fans are suggesting you get some fresh air.   Why don't you?

[truth_seeker]

God, Grant Me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I Can,

and Wisdom to know the difference........            by Reinhold Niebuhr

A widely used prayer, reflecting an attitude and philosophy of life.

To question the effectiveness of an individual's actions is NOT hatred of the individual.

To settle for being ANGRY when one doesn't get their way is not likely to be effective. (It is a common tactic used by small children)

Your political opponents would like nothing better than for you to be really angry....so angry you can't see straight.

[katzenjammer]

If what is going on in Washington right now doesn't make a person angry - then they are dead inside.

Agree wholeheartedly!!  And those that think things are going to be "fixed" by playing the "game" are as big a part of the problem as those causing the destruction at this point.  One of the other main problems is that we have a populace that is so dumbed down and distracted at the present that the number of people that have any clue as to what is going on in DC is embarrassingly small. 

[happyg]

If what is going on in Washington right now doesn't make a person angry - then they are dead inside.

They are either liberals or some of the GOPe who are content with the status quo.

[Lando Lincoln]

Sink... you know I support you.  Always have.  Maybe take a breather.  Get some fresh air with the dogs.  Really.

I see sink is in a forced timeout.  That is not what I wanted.

[DCPatriot]

I see sink is in a forced timeout.  That is not what I wanted.

Getting really fed up with all the bullshit around here........

[evadR]

I wonder why Sowell is suddenly on a campaign against Cruz?

[DCPatriot]

I wonder why Sowell is suddenly on a campaign against Cruz?

Betcha if I had the last ten (10) years of all your internet posts....facebook posts...and emails...I could get you to dance too!