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Re: Rush Limbaugh Live Thread
« Reply #200 on: February 04, 2011, 06:00:51 AM »
Thanks, DC.  I didn't get to hear Rush live in this brilliant translation of human events.

To those of us of a certain generation it's like, duh, it's
just as I learned it in school.  Although my teachers didn't necessarily label it as such, I recognize now what they were teaching me was American exceptionalism. 
And as a sponge, just over from Sicily, I soaked it up.  And that's why today I AM A PATRIOTIC AMERICAN and not a scum-sucking liberal.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh Live Thread
« Reply #201 on: February 04, 2011, 09:41:38 PM »


Why is Ronald Reagan a Hero?
February 4, 2011



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RUSH: And who's next?  Mike, Falls Church, Virginia, nice to have you on the EIB Network.  Hello, sir.

CALLER:  Hi, Rush.  I, um... I'm calling because... Well, first of all, I'm a liberal, and I seriously don't understand this, uh, Reagan idolatry on behalf of conservatives.  I'll get... I'll give you my reasons.  Instead of privatizing Social Security, he raised taxes. We're all paying higher taxes today out of our paychecks every single week because he decided to save Social Security.  He --

RUSH: Wait, wait.  Hold it.  I need to go...

CALLER: (speaking rapidly)

RUSH: Wait. Jeez.

CALLER:  The Greenspan Commission.  He signed it into law, and it raised taxes on Social Security.

RUSH:  What...? Wait, you're talking about Reagan or Clinton?

CALLER:  I'm talking about Reagan.  Reagan did that.  He raised taxes on Social Security.  He negotiated with terrorists, sending -- over and over again -- arms to Iran in exchange for hostages perform by contrast Jimmy Carter didn't give an inch to the Iranians.

RUSH:  What in the world...?

CALLER:  Not an inch.  Instead Reagan (crosstalk)

RUSH:  Testing the true depth of my politeness here on this call, folks.

CALLER:  Say that again?

RUSH:  Let me ask you a question.  What do you think, given all this that you believe, when you hear Obama and the Democrats cite Reagan as they have been doing since about a week before the State of the Union?

CALLER:  It's funny you ask that.  Because as a liberal I think Obama owes his presidency to Reagan.  They're both kinda stuffed suits that say one thing and then do another.  Obama hasn't been anywhere near liberal enough for me.  He said he'd close Guantamano (sic), he hasn't done that.

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: He said he'd help people out with foreclosures, he hasn't done that.

RUSH:  I feel for you on that.

CALLER:  But Reagan, I mean, amnesty to people who are breaking the law and living in the country illegally. He said, "Forget about it. Stay here forever." He cut and ran from Lebanon. How many hundreds of Marines were killed --

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: -- and he just decided, "Well, you know, instead of the fighting the bad guys I'm gonna run away"?

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER:  Why is Reagan a hero to conservatives?

RUSH:  "Why is Reagan a hero to conservatives?"  I don't think you... Given what you've said, and I'm not trying to avoid the question, I don't think you'd ever understand it.

CALLER:  Well, he's a tax raiser, an amnesty giver, a cut-and-runner, and he negotiated with terrorists.  Why is he a hero to conservatives?  I don't think you understand it.

RUSH: No, I do. Most assuredly I do.  I just don't think that you would understand it.  Where did you get this silly notion that Reagan raised taxes on Social Security?  What websites do you read?  Where did you pick that up?

CALLER:  Look up the Greenspan Commission.  It's not too hard to find.  I mean, it's a matter of history.

RUSH: Where did you get it?  I mean, you're asking me questions.  I'm just reversing one on you here.

CALLER:  I'm sorry.  It's just general knowledge.  It's something I've known for a long time. I can't remember where I got it from.

RUSH: You can't remember? You've never heard of a website called Media Matters which highlighted it yesterday?

CALLER: (static) Oh, no. I know Media Matters very well but that's not where I got it.

RUSH: Oh, not where you got it. It's an amazing coincidence.

CALLER: (static) I mean, I'm a liberal.  Of course I know Media Matters.

RUSH:  Amazing coincidence out there.

CALLER: (static blaring) They're a fantastic website.  But why are you dodging the question?  I want to know why a tax-raising, amnesty-giving, cut-and-running, negotiating-with-terrorists guy is a hero to the conservative movement.

RUSH:  Well, because you understand Reagan in a way that is flawed. You --

CALLER: (static)

RUSH: Your call is actually kinda interesting because you represent the impossibility of "bridging the gap."  Somebody like you just has to be defeated.  There's no crossing the aisle and finding common ground with you.  You're free to be who you are, don't misunderstand.  I'm not trying to insulting. I'm just saying, you are unreachable. You don't want to be reached.  T his picture of Reagan, you've just described somebody you should love, and you hate him! You just described somebody you should absolutely love, all these things. He's an anti-conservative, as you say, but you don't love him. You're having trouble understanding why he's viewed as heroic to a lot of people. 

I could talk to you about anti-communism. I could. You want to talk about amnesty? Yeah, that was Simpson-Mazzoli, and that was one-and-a-half, two million illegals; and he was told, "Okay, if we're gonna do this, this is it, then. We're gonna secure the borders and that's it."  It's the same thing with every tax increase he signed. It was also accompanied by promises to cut spending, and it never happened.  Reagan's not perfect.  Nobody is.  But I think the proof of Reagan is the fact that when your guys get in trouble, who do they seek to associate themselves with?  Remember, Obama and these people are all about getting votes. 

The fact that he's trying to surround himself with Reagan, the fact that he's trying to position himself with Reagan is the best indication anybody could have of what this country really thinks of Ronaldus Magnus.  I think if you want to focus in on hypocrisy, you've got far more of it on your side of the aisle to explain and dig through than we do.  Reagan was forced to raise payroll taxes by a crisis in Social Security in 1983. He endorsed that rescue plan that was written by Alan Greenspan. It was reluctant.  He was not a big supporter of that.  Remember, Reagan did not have a congressional majority with him.

Everything he got, the tax cuts, he had Democrats outnumbering him in the House and Senate everywhere.  There were certain realities that he faced.  But the biggest tax increase on Social Security was authored by none other than Bill Clinton.  But did you understand the notion? Ronald Reagan fought for America.  He loved America.  He feared where the left, based on history, wanted to take the country.  Ronald Reagan set the stage for the end of the Cold War.  Ronald Reagan defeated Soviet communism without firing a shot.  I don't know... But none of that would matter.  So you, sir, a nice individual, I'm sure you're a fine guy (probably not too much fun at a ball game, unlike Bill Clinton), but still, you illustrate that people like you just have to be defeated, not met halfway and gotten along with.  I mean politically.


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Re: Rush Limbaugh Live Thread
« Reply #202 on: February 04, 2011, 10:23:07 PM »
Obama hasn't been anywhere near liberal enough for me.

translation... as Rush said, there is no middle ground with someone who makes a statement of that sort,
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Re: Rush Limbaugh Live Thread
« Reply #203 on: February 05, 2011, 11:52:21 AM »


An Appalling Washington Post Editorial Disguised as a News Story
February 4, 2011



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RUSH: This Washington Post story: "Amid Arab Protests, US Influence Has Waned."  What this really means is that amid Arab protests, Obama influence has waned.  Here's a brief summary.  This story maintains that we have lost on two fronts as a country.  We are no longer a force to be dealt with and that we are no longer the light of freedom to the rest of the world.  That's what this Washington Post story says.  And why is that?  They don't say.  

They just want to blame the country.  Why is that?  What's changed?  We always have been the light of freedom to the rest of the world.  We have always been a force to be dealt with.  What's changed?  Clearly it's Obama.  We are not a force to be dealt with. He's running around apologizing for this country as often as he can, to whoever will listen, no longer the light of freedom to the rest of the world.  I mean you can sprinkle in a lot of other socialist Democrats as well.  

But here's a quote from the last line of the story: "Nobody's listening to America anymore.  It's become irrelevant." This is some hack in the story.  Why is that?  Why has America become irrelevant?  This is what David "Rodham" Gergen is so worried about when Obama goes out there, makes a speech and tries to take credit for this mob in Cairo, try to get out in front of the mob and make it his.  This story's written by somebody named Liz Sly.  Now, this is a news article, not an editorial.  However, it reads as an opinion piece from the champions of democracy and the haters of dictators at the Washington Post.  Its Dateline is Baghdad.  "In days gone by, it was pretty much guaranteed that any demonstration in the Arab world would feature burning American flags and a blazing effigy or two of the U.S. president.  At the pro-democracy demonstrations on the streets of Cairo and elsewhere --" do we know that's what they are?  We don't yet know that, do we?  We don't know that this is pro-democracy.  A lot of people are hoping it is.  "At the pro-democracy demonstrations on the streets of Cairo and elsewhere --" where else is this happening?  What am I missing?  Yemen, Jordan, is that what she means?  "-- references to the United States have been conspicuously absent, a sign of what some analysts are already calling a 'post-American Middle East' of diminished U.S. influence and far greater uncertainty about America's role."

Well, now, I would think the Washington Post would be overjoyed at this.  Isn't this exactly what Obama said he wanted?  Obama has run around: No longer is the US gonna tell people what they have to do.  No longer is the US going to lead the world economically.  No longer is the US going to be a dominating influence in the world.  Those days are over.  Obama has essentially said it in so many words.  Isn't that exactly what the Washington Post wants, or Madam Albright?  We need a competing superior.  It's not good that the US is the sole superpower in the world, why, that creates an imbalance, terrible possibilities.  Only if you think of the US as a bad guy.  See, this is where these people lose us, and I know I speak for you.  You and I see nothing wrong with the United States as the lone superpower in the world.  We're the good guys.  We're a force for good.  The American people are the solution.  We're not the problem.  But to people like Madeleine Albright, and I assume Obama and many of his administration, the United States has been the problem, in way too many places.  Why else apologize?  

Doesn't the Washington Post want America to have less say in the world?  Don't they say we should let other countries take the lead for a change?  It's time to get ourselves out of every other nation's business.  Back to the story now: "For just as burning flags are not part of the current repertoire, neither are demonstrators carrying around models of the Statue of Liberty, as Chinese activists brought to Tiananmen Square in 1989." Yeah, well, look at all the good that did 'em.  Just being realistic.  Ask China's Nobel Peace Prize laureate how much good it does to count on the US for support or leadership in the cause of freedom, if you can find him.  The ChiComs have him in jail.  The 2010 Nobel Peace Prize winner is in jail.  The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner just held a state dinner for the jailer, Hu Jintao.  

"Middle East activists say they avoid references to the United States as a political role model for fear of alienating potential supporters, said Toufan Faisal, a veteran democracy campaigner in Jordan who has been advising young protesters in the Jordanian capital, Amman. 'I don't think America appeals to the younger generation,' she said. 'I'm cautious not to present them with the American example because there's a negative attitude to America, a disappointment.'"  Yeah?  What's changed?  The Post writes about this in the most curious of ways.  I thought the Statue of Liberty was a symbol about immigration.  They revel here in the country being trashed, and if they're not reveling in the country being trashed they are perplexed as to why it's being trashed.  Either way we scratch our heads.  "No one yet knows what kind of Middle East will emerge from Cairo's embattled streets: a newly democratic one, an increasingly radicalized one, or perhaps one in which authoritarian regimes tighten their grip."  But even though we don't know, we gotta do it now.  That's what Mr. Obama has decreed.  It must proceed immediately.  That's what he said, even though we don't know what kind of Middle East will emerge.  

"Events in Cairo are unfolding too rapidly to predict, but one possible outcome could be a more visibly anti-American drift."  The hell you say.  A more visible anti-American drift?  This, of course, ladies and gentlemen, could be why Mr. Obama wants to rush it through, of course.  Well, I know that's offensive to some, perhaps, to hear that.  Remember now we do have a president who runs around apologizing.  He does think this country's transgressed.  He does think that we need to be shown a thing or two, learn a couple of lessons. Mainly because, apart from the one and a half billion dollars in aid we give Egypt we haven't done a whole hell of a lot to enable Mr. Mubarak, and apart from his keeping his hands off Israel, he hasn't done much to help us, either.  In fact, according to former Ambassador John Bolton, Egypt has regularly led the opposition to any American moves in the UN.  

The story continues: "Reform of a particular sort could actually bolster US interests if it allows more open commerce and development of a strong middle class in societies often split today between a connected rich and a dispossessed poor."  It sounds like they're getting exactly what they want over there.  Anyway the story goes on and on and on.  And as I say, it basically paints this country as a loser, no longer a force to be dealt with, no longer a light of freedom of the world, no longer a force for good.  And it's either that we deserve it or somebody has made it happen, in which case you have to ask who.  And I don't mean Jintao.  


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RUSH: I think maybe the most appalling line in that appalling Washington Post piece is this:  

"America has had its Mideast moments," which means America has had our good moments in the Middle East, "not the least when Obama took office in 2009, pledging a new era in US relations with the Muslim world." Of all the things we've done in the Middle East, that's the thing that stands out to Liz Sly at the Washington Post. Not that we've liberated 40 million in Afghanistan and Iraq.  Not all the other good works that we have done in the Middle East. No, no! It's Obama making a speech in Cairo that stands out.  The bottom line of that Washington Post piece is that the US needs to change its policy to, "Why are we losing?

"Why are we no longer a light? Why are we looked down upon? It's because we have Israel as an ally." That's what that piece is all about.  She writes a brilliant piece on why we've lost it; she just gets it wrong.  It's Obama: why this is no longer a light-of-freedom place.  It's Obama: why the influence is waning.  We don't project power, we don't do things for good the way we used to.  No, this Washington Post piece is all about trying to sever our relationship with Israel.  If we do that, then we're good -- and it's a news story, although it's not. It's an editorial disguised as a news story.  If we just throw Israel overboard, folks (chuckles), that's our answer! That's how we get back our good graces in the world.

All right, here is Peter in Phoenix.  Peter, you're next.  Open Line Friday.  Great to have you with us.

CALLER:  Thanks, Rush.  I was also raised in Missouri, what I affectionately call "the greatest state in the union," and my lifelong Democrat father made the mistake of popping me on a track that only had an AM radio when I was about 15 years old -- and, well, he doesn't have a lifelong Democrat son.  My question to you is, in the spirit of Super Bowl week, I kind of got my rooting cap on and they've kind of portrayed this problem in Egypt as some sort of blockbuster movie; but I don't know any of the politics behind it, and I guess my question is: I don't know who to root for.

RUSH:  That's a great question.  It is a great one. Nobody knows who to root for right now.  But I'm gonna tell you something.  I have taken the counsel of people wiser than I, scholars who have paid attention to this part of the world and have studied our relationship with allies who are dictators, allies who may not pass the moral smell test. But balanced out, there are a lot of people who would think: On this, we need to be rooting for Mubarak.

CALLER:  And I'm inclined to agree with you.

RUSH:  We need to have rooting for --

CALLER: (crosstalk)

RUSH:  If you're -- if you're --

CALLER:  The prices were steady when he was in power.

RUSH:  If you are concerned about US national interests, Mubarak seems to be who to root for, and I think that's why that you see so many people dumping on Mubarak, both in the US media and elsewhere. There are so many people portraying this as a big democracy movement, "And that's why we, the US, we stand for democracy, don't we?  We gotta get behind the protests." The Muslim Brotherhood does not equal democracy to me.  Sorry, I just don't get there.  They want an Islamic state. The Muslim Brotherhood wants an Islamic state.  I don't know. Iran? Half of Iran? I don't know.  This is all aimed at Israel.  Everybody's got their ammo aimed at Israel over there.  That's what this is all about.

Indianapolis, John, I've got one minute and I wanted to get to you.  What's up?

CALLER:  I hope the Navy never names any ship after Obama, and if the Navy ever decides to name something after Obama, name an anchor!

RUSH: (chuckling)

CALLER: Because to me, Obama's no Ron Reagan. He is the gum that's stuck on the sidewalks of presidents.  Have a fantastic Super Bowl, and thanks for all you do.  Thank you, sir. Bye.

RUSH:  Wow! Now, there is the true illustration of brevity being the soul of wit.  Did I hear him right? Don't ever name a ship after Obama, but name an anchor after him?  Now, that's brilliant.  And I've never heard that.  I'm sure you have. I'm sure for you military people it's probably a long-held joke: You know, name an anchor after somebody; it's a new one on me -- and boy, does that fit.  



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Re: Rush Limbaugh Live Thread
« Reply #204 on: February 06, 2011, 01:23:09 AM »
"Nobody's listening to America anymore.  It's become irrelevant

wasn't that Obama's plan all along?  Certainly seems that way to me.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh Live Thread
« Reply #205 on: February 08, 2011, 08:35:59 PM »
EIB Interview: Donald Rumsfeld
February 8, 2011


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RUSH: We want to welcome to the program the former secretary of defense, Donald Rumsfeld, whose new book is out today. It's a memoir called Known and Unknown. Mr. Secretary, welcome. Great to have you here on our program.

RUMSFELD: Thank you so much, Rush, I'm delighted to be with you.

RUSH: Is this your first book?

RUMSFELD: It is my first book, and at 78 years old, it's a long gestation period.

RUSH: Well, it is amazing, you have been in public life -- folks, here's how long he's been in public life. He met Dick Cheney when Cheney applied to be an intern in Secretary Rumsfeld's congressional office. What year was that?

RUMSFELD: The early part of 1969.

RUSH: Okay.

RUMSFELD: Rush, I've lived one-third of the history of America. That's breathtaking to think of that.

RUSH: That's what I want to get to. You have a perspective on this that no one else really has. Just from one standpoint: civility in American politics. You have been around since 1969, that's the Vietnam War, you were around through Watergate. You left for a while and joined G.D. Searle where you presided over the marketing of aspartame, Equal. You go back into government, you've been a patriot all of your life. I want to ask you, as forthrightly and honestly as you can tell, what is the difference, if there is any, in civility, mean-spiritedness, extremism, intraparty rivalries, the defamatory things said about people in politics. Has it always been the same to you or has it gotten progressively worse and at any time were you just shocked and saddened by it that you thought maybe it's not worth it anymore?

RUMSFELD: Well, actually, when I left the Navy -- I was a Navy pilot -- I went to Washington when Eisenhower was president, then I was in Congress during a tough period, during the Kennedy and Johnson era when the Vietnam War was going on and the civil rights legislation, and there were riots in America and protests and blood being thrown on the Pentagon and graves being dug. So that was a tough time. And as you said, we now come up into the twenty-first century, and you think of what people like Senator Kennedy said about the Abu Ghraib. He said that, "Saddam Hussein's torture chambers are now under new management, the United States government." And Senator Durbin said that Guantanamo Bay was like Nazis and the Soviet gulag and Pol Pot. You could even go back to Abraham Lincoln and some of the perfectly terrible things that were said about him. We've had these periods in our history where that's happened. But the short answer to your question is, no, Rush, there's never been a time when I've thought that it wasn't worthwhile. I believe it is worthwhile, and I think that it's important that Americans be willing to serve and be willing to live with the kind of lack of civility that occurs. And I'm proud to have served.

 RUSH: Is this lack of civility -- and I'm focusing on this here at the outset because it's now used as a political wedge to try to silence people like you in government when you're there. Is it worse now? You cite the Civil War. I can't imagine the country ever being more roiled since the Civil War. Is it worse today? Are the people claiming that we need to get rid of public voices of a certain persuasion, do they have a point or is this all just manufactured, it's standard operating procedure for democracy?

RUMSFELD: Well, let's hope it isn't standard operating procedure for a democracy. What we need is people willing to say what they believe, to become engaged and helping to guide and direct the course of this country. And you look at most recently the energy from the Tea Party people where they've gotten excited and concerned and stood up and spoke their minds, and that's such a healthy thing, and provides energy for our country. I think that's a good thing. Now, is it disappointing to see people behave in a way that's so uncivil? Yes, it is disappointing, but we can't let that turn us off because we as citizens have a responsibility.

RUSH: Now, you talked to Diane Sawyer at World News Tonight recently, and you told her that you wanted to be allowed to resign after the pictures from Abu Ghraib were published. You thought those pictures were such a stain on the country, and then you had these six generals that stepped forward to call for your resignation. What was it about, given all the things you've seen, all the things that you have been in charge of over your years in government, what was it about Abu Ghraib that so disgusted you?

RUMSFELD: Well, the behavior was disgusting. It was perverted. It was deviant. And here are these truly wonderful men and women in the United States military who volunteer to serve our country, and their reputations were stained by the behavior of a few handfuls of people. And the implication was that that had something to do with interrogation. And of course the truth was none of the people that were being abused were subjects of interrogation, and none of the people doing the abuse were interrogators. They were prison guards. It was discovered by the military, investigated by the military, and people were prosecuted and punished. But the damage to our country was significant. If you think about it, the enemy could go out and use those pictures to raise money against us, to recruit against us, and I've always believed in accountability. And since the lines of accountability were confused and some people who had been there were gone and the people who were there were new, I decided that the easiest way to demonstrate accountability and the importance of it would be for me to submit my resignation, so I did, twice.

RUSH: But the president didn't want you to quit?

RUMSFELD: That's correct.

RUSH: Now, do you really think that those pictures from Abu Ghraib, do terrorists really need that to recruit?

RUMSFELD: No, they're perfectly capable of lying, and they did. I mean take one of the rumors that was spread around the world about alleging that someone at Guantanamo Bay had flushed a Koran down the toilet. There were riots in three or four cities, people were killed, and by the time the truth came around that there never was a Koran flushed down the toilet at Guantanamo, it was absolutely false, and of course the journalist that did it then said if there was some portion of their story that was wrong, they're sorry, but the people were dead already. So these things are important. The thing that was on the backside of that however is that there's something about our country that we're reluctant to engage in a competition of ideas in government. We are up against a vicious enemy, the radical Islamists are there, they intend to try to create a caliphate in this world and fundamentally alter the nature of nation states, and we're reluctant to engage in the competition of ideas and point out what they really are and how vicious they are. This current administration is even afraid to say the word Islamist. And we need to fight. We need to be willing to say what it is and be willing to tackle it. And thank goodness for people like you who are willing to do it.

RUSH: In context of all that, what do you make of what's happening in Egypt? So many people are confused. I must confess I'm having a tough time finding somebody I believe is able to convince me what this is really all about.

RUMSFELD: Let me make a couple of comments in that regard. First, it seems to me that what's important is private diplomacy, not public diplomacy. Public diplomacy tends to be aimed not so much at the people you're trying to persuade, but to satisfy your own base and to make yourself look good. And one knows that the private diplomacy is what ultimately is going to be important. So it's not surprising that those of us on the outside don't have a perfect fix on what's taking place. Second, I would say that there are without question -- first of all, Egypt's an enormously important country. It's large, it's historically important. From an educational standpoint it's a big factor in the Arab world and what happens there makes a big difference to us. As you know well, we watched what happened in Iran where there was a popular revolution and the people that were the best organized and the most vicious took over the country. And they didn't end up with freer political systems or freer economic systems. They ended up with the ayatollahs controlling that country.

RUSH: Well, that's the thing. Are we looking at something similar here or is this really -- I mean there are people telling us this is a democracy movement, we need to be fully, fully behind what's going on here. If that means the ouster of Mubarak, then we must be for it immediately. We're hearing that argument as well.

RUMSFELD: Well, you can have a perfectly legitimate democracy movement where there are a variety of people across the political spectrum who all agree that there needs to be change. The problem is the people who tend to be the best organized are the most radical and the most vicious. And so you can have a broad popular democracy movement and have it end being taken over by the most vicious people and the result is you don't end up with free political systems or free economic systems, you end up with a handful of radicals controlling the country. That's the risk.

RUSH: We're speaking with former Defense Secretary Ronald Rumsfeld, former secretary of practically everything in his career in the US government. Were we surprised at what happened in Iran when we decided the Shah had to go? Was there intel that the ayatollahs might take over and form an Islamist government as they have?

RUMSFELD: There was certainly intel that suggested that the return of the ayatollah from, as I recall, Paris to Iran and that there were people who had extreme views. I think that the actual departure of the Shah came as a surprise. I don't think our intel suggested that. There was clearly information that there was concern about the secret police, the SAVAK during that period, and the country had not moved toward freer political and freer economic systems.

RUSH: Well, people have the same fear that the process is repeating itself in Egypt.

RUMSFELD: That's true. I mean it's a perfectly legitimate concern. How it will come out, we don't know. But if you think about our world and the relatively small number of countries where people are doing well and have opportunity, those are the countries with the freer political and the freer economic systems. The places where people are not doing well -- my favorite picture as you probably know is that picture of the Korean peninsula taken from a satellite at night, and the same people north and south, the same resources north and south, and below the demilitarized zone you have this brilliant light with the 12th or 13th largest economy on the face of the earth and up north people are starving because there's a dictatorship up north and a free system down south.

RUSH: We're speaking with former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

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RUSH: And we're back with former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. His new memoir is Known and Unknown, and right at the start of the program it was number nine on the Amazon list. It's big. It's 815 pages. It's his first memoir, first autobiography in his entire life and it is as comprehensive as it can be, and of course Secretary Rumsfeld, it's been out now. You've had it reviewed. The usual suspects are finding all kinds of things wrong with it, particularly Maureen Dowd at the New York Times. She is just is as petty as you can be, claiming your entire 815 pages is an attempt to blame everybody else for everything imaginable under the sun, that you can't find any way in your heart to accept any blame or shame for what transgressions that they at the New York Times think you are responsible for.

RUMSFELD: (laughing) Well, that's no great surprise. You know, when you think about it, there was a lot of criticism of President Bush and his administration about Guantanamo Bay, about the indefinite detention and military commissions and the structure he put in place to go after terrorists and to put pressure on them everywhere in the world. And after all that criticism and all that fussing, we now have had two years of the new administration and that structure is still in place, and the reason it's still in place is because President Bush did a superb job for this country in defending it. Here we are a decade later and we have not had another attack on the United States of America, and that didn't just happen.

RUSH: Were you surprised...?

RUMSFELD: That didn't just happen. That took a lot of work and a lot of courage and God bless President Bush for the work he's done. I must add one thing. This book is, as you say, well documented. There are a lot notes. There's 1300 endnotes. And in addition, we've digitized a large fraction of my archive, and if a person reads a paragraph on a memo in the book they can then go to the website and at Rumsfeld.com and get the entire memo and see for themselves what the context was, what the perspective was. So I feel very good about the book and the perspective it offers to the interested reader, a person who's interested in history of the time.

RUSH: Now, I want to talk to you about the Joe Wilson-Valerie Plame escapade. I know this didn't involve the Department of Defense, but to those of you watching this, there were certain things that were true that just befuddled us. We knew that the leak had taken place in the State Department. Everybody knew that the leak had taken place in the State Department. Everybody knew that the mission of the Wilsons was to undermine and discredit the Bush administration in the war on terror and the war in Iraq, and yet this whole thing played out -- with everybody knowing the truth -- as though we were in search for a scapegoat. It ended up being Scooter Libby, who didn't leak anything to anybody, who got caught on a process crime. What is it like for you? I mean, you had to know all this. What's it like for you over at the Department of Defense, or recently out of it, watching all this going on and unable to say anything about it at the time?

RUMSFELD: It is heartbreaking to see a fine human being like Scooter Libby punished in that way, even though, as you properly point out, he was not involved in leaking anything that should not have been leaked. It was a travesty, and I felt terrible about it. What's interesting, though -- and I think it's important that you point it out -- is now there's a movie out that perpetuates the mythology about all this.

RUSH: Right, exactly.

RUMSFELD: It's disgraceful.

RUSH: By the way, there's no wrong answer here and I'm not trying to put you on the spot: Do you have time at the end of the half hour here for another segment? If you don't and you have to move on, that's fine. But if you do --

RUMSFELD: I do. I'd be delighted.

RUSH: Okay, 'cause I'm not gonna get into everything I would like within the last three minutes of this segment. You have 815 pages. The documentation of things here is unprecedented in a memoir, as you've just pointed out. Is there one thing you could tease people with that you think will surprise people the most if they endeavor to read all 815 pages?

RUMSFELD: Well, I'll say one thing I did do which I found of interest. You know, a lot of people don't read footnotes. So what we did was we moved all the technical information and the sourcing and the referencing to the endnotes in the back of the book. And as I say, there's something like 1300 endnotes. But there's several hundred footnotes, and they're basically anecdotes or interesting things about the period that I was writing about in that chapter which might have interrupted the narrative but nonetheless I think they're interesting to read and I think people will enjoy them if they take the time to take a look them.

RUSH: How much of it did you have to get declassified?

RUMSFELD: Oh, quite a bit. We've had good cooperation. We've taken my... Of course, my earlier year when I was US ambassador to NATO under President Nixon and then as Middle East envoy for President Reagan, they're far enough back that much of that could be readily declassified. Same thing when I was secretary of defense in the seventies. The material from 2001 to 2006 we had to go through a process where the government did declassify it. So we've been able to put up literally hundreds of documents on the website, many of which were previously classified but now have been declassified.

RUSH: General Petraeus. The newspaper ads, they called him a liar before he even testified about the surge. Now, you probably have to, even in your position now, remain somewhat politic. But as we watch it -- I'm talking about myself as a representative of just the average American citizen. As we watched all of that play out -- the surge, the attempt to finally win this thing in Iraq -- many of us concluded that for political reasons, the Democrat Party simply did not want to see victory there; that they were too tied up in securing a malaise, if not a defeat for their own political advancement. There you are. You're over at the Pentagon. You are charged with executing policy and instructions as they come from the White House and you have to listen to generals and they're telling you what's best to achieve victory.

And you have to sit here, or there, and you watch all this on television. You listen to these outrageous things said about people under your command. You know full well that you are doing everything you can to achieve victory for this country and in this war, and you have to sit there and watch this. There are those of us -- and I'll put myself at the top of the list, and I want you to ponder the answer. I gotta go to a break here in 20 seconds. But we sit here and wonder: What must it be like for you? You're a patriot; you've devoted your life to serving this country. You have to sit here and listen to this kind of thing. You know it can't possibly be true in your own heart. You can't possibly be listening to these people tell the truth, yet you have to sit there and endure this, as did General Petraeus. I want to get your reaction when we come back.

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RUSH: Welcome back, folks, we are with the former secretary of defense twice in this country, Donald Rumsfeld, and his new book is Known and Unknown, an 815-page memoir, started today number nine on Amazon and no doubt now is number one and climbing. Secretary Rumsfeld, I'm looking forward to your answer on that because I don't know how you would do your job, how you would keep the lid on watching such outrageousness, such efforts to tarnish you, impugn you, your department, your reputation, your purpose, and there it plays out on national TV, and there you have the media supporting all this, and all of it is for political advantage, the first time in my life I could remember an entire political party opposed to American victory.

RUMSFELD: If you take it one step further, Senator Reid, Democratic leader, announced that the war was lost. He came to that conclusion.

RUSH: Happily so.

RUMSFELD: And you know, if you think about it, we're fortunate to have generals like Petraeus and McChrystal and Odierno and so many others who go about their business, recognize that what they're defending in this wonderful country of ours is the right for people to be wrong, the right for people to have opinions different from ours or theirs. I should add, however, on the surge, what George Bush did, President Bush, was courageous, it was bold. He made a judgment that he needed to galvanize opinion in Iraq and show that he was determined and wasn't looking for a way out. He was looking for a way to prevail. He galvanized opinion in the United States, and thank goodness we had a leader with that kind of courage and that kind of insight.

RUSH: Now, you think of President Bush, people may not know, you were asked to be secretary of defense in 2000, you were surprised by that because you and his father had not gotten along. What was the root of that?

RUMSFELD: You've got me. I have no idea. He led people to believe that I had something to do with his going to the CIA, which was not the case and that he felt that that might have been because it would rule him out for vice president, and that's kind of what the books about him suggested. President Ford pointed out accurately, in writing and orally, that that was not the case. I've never really quite understood it.

RUSH: But you do know the Bush family's close. You get the call from 43 wanting you to be secretary of defense. Was there any red flags that went up, did you think maybe I'm being set up here for something or how did you make sure he was genuine about it?

RUMSFELD: No, no, no. George W. Bush is not George Herbert Walker Bush. He's his own man, and, as I discussed in my book, he made his own judgments and made his own decisions and I think one has to respect him for that.

RUSH: Let's go back to the Pentagon. Correct me if I'm wrong -- just outside looking in -- it seems to me there are two kinds of generals, warriors generals and political generals, generals who will be politically correct in order to advance, and the warriors generals who, you know, "Turn me loose and I'm gonna win the war for you, Mr. Secretary." You wanted to transform the military. You wanted to revolutionize it, modernize it, starting in 2000. You met a lot of resistance in the Pentagon. From whom, and why?

RUMSFELD: You know, in Washington there is a kind of an iron triangle that operates. It's the permanent bureaucracy in the Pentagon, it's the permanent bureaucracy in the Congress and it's the defense contractors. And they like things the way they are. There's a lot of golf games and a lot of discussions and a lot of dinners and meals, and when someone comes in as President Bush did, he gave a speech at the Citadel, he said he was gonna transform the Department of Defense and get it arranged for the twenty-first century, and he knew and I knew that if you are a gonna try to do that you're gonna have to make changes and we also know that if you change something, somebody's not gonna like it and there's resistance. So we set about that task, and as I look back, I really feel proud about what was accomplished. If you think about it, we have dramatically increased the capability of our special operations forces. We have significantly improved the brigade concept in the United States Army where we move from a division concept to a brigade concept, which has been as transformational as anything that's taken place.

RUSH: For people that don't know, what's the difference in a division and a brigade?

RUMSFELD: Well, what you can do today is deploy a much smaller element with all the capabilities needed in a brigade, whereas previously if you needed a relatively small element, you would weaken the entire division, and the division would then not be able to function because the capabilities would have to go with the small elements. And we would not be able to be doing what we're doing today if Pete Schoomaker, General Schoomaker and the Department of Defense had not made those amazing changes. I would say one other thing about the department. To the extent that the department functions jointly, we are leveraged to an enormous advantage for our country. To the extent each service goes out and believes they can fight an Army battle or a Navy battle or an Air Force battle separately, we lose that leverage. And we have one other thing we've accomplished in transforming the department. We have rearranged our forces around the world in a way that fits the twenty-first century. They were basically still in locations where they were at the end of World War II. And they today are lighter, they're faster, they're more lethal and our country is vastly better off for those changes.

RUSH: Mr. Secretary, I once had the chance to talk to a former director of central intelligence, and I asked him if the director at CIA knows everything the agency has going on at the time. I want to ask you, your office is at the Pentagon. Is there anybody in the United States government who knows everything going on in every office at the Pentagon at one time? It's so massive, it's so big.
RUMSFELD: Oh, you're exactly right, Rush. When you're dealing with an entity as large as the defense establishment you have to delegate enormous chunks of responsibility and try to pick good people, and then work with them to see that the president's goals are accomplished. But I think it was Dean Rusk who used to say, "At any given moment, two-thirds of the world is up to something." (laughing) And it's a big responsibility. We have, fortunately, a great many wonderful people who are willing to serve our country and do it with dedication and patriotism.

RUSH: Do we have people there that aren't doing it with distinction and patriotism? Do we have people at various levels of our defense structure who may not have the same national interests that, say, I might or that you might or the president might? How do you avoid, how do you keep that from happening?

RUMSFELD: Well, of course in any large organization you're gonna have people that run all the way across the spectrum. One of the biggest problems after September 11th was trying to inject a degree of urgency into the institution and to get the rest of the government behaving in a manner that they understood that our country was at war and that we had a task of defending our people. I remember one thing I used to say to the leadership in the department is, sit here today and imagine that we suffered a 9/11 attack six months from now, only it was twice or three times as bad. What is it that we would regret we had not been doing today, tomorrow, and the next day and every day between now and six months from now, what is it we have to do, with what degree of urgency to protect the American people? And you simply need to see that there's a recognition of the danger and the lethality of weapons today and try to get a gigantic institution determined to protect the United States of America.

RUSH: Well, some people might say we need Joe Biden as vice president. I mean he said that he and Obama have won the Iraq war. What was your reaction to that?

RUMSFELD: Well, you know, I've listened to him for so many years. There's not much he hasn't said from time to time.

RUSH: (laughing) One more thing before we go to the break, maybe a couple more. You just talked about the Pentagon and trying to rally everybody after 9/11. One of the things that happened after 9/11 was over at the State Department some people got together and said we need to have a symposium here to find out why they hate us. We gotta find out why they wanted to do this to us. Now, there you are over at the Pentagon, and did it affect the way you did your job? Or was it just something that was somebody in another department was saying, or you were scratching your head. What's your reaction when somebody over at State says, "Oh, my gosh, we have to have a forum, a symposium, we've got to find out why they hate us," as though we almost deserve this, as though this was our fault. It was in your government, it was your administration.

RUMSFELD: (crosstalk) -- our country's behavior. Remember Jeane Kirkpatrick and the speech she gave, the blame-America-first crowd?

RUSH: Yeah.

RUMSFELD: And there's something in the American, oh, behavior pattern that we tend to want to look for assuming responsibility. And of course what that ignores is the respect that our country has around the world, the number of people who line up at night to get a visa to come to our country, the opportunities that this country provides people. I had a new hip not too long ago and I had a therapist from Nigeria, and as I was leaving, finishing up after three or four sessions, he said to me, "You in America just simply don't appreciate your country." He said, "In Lagos, Nigeria people line up and sleep in the grass at ten o'clock at night trying to be first in line to get a visa to come to your country. It is an amazing land of opportunity." And we need to be proud of it, not ashamed of it. We need to stand up for it and be gracious and grateful that we were born here and we have the opportunities. And I hope that my memoir, when people read it, will recognize the kinds of opportunities that I've had and the kinds of opportunities they can have and be inspired, to be engaged in government and public service.

RUSH: Well, I would heartily recommend it. I don't think anybody could go buy a book written by anybody who has been more intimately involved, closer to power, for as many years, has been through as much, has known all of the power players as you have. It is amazing. I can ask you about the Halloween massacre. I could ask you what were Rumsfeld and Cheney like back during the Nixon and Ford years, and that's not recent. We're going way, way back. You were a congressman in 1969 and that's where you met Cheney when he shows up to be an intern. You've led quite a life, and the vast majority of it in public service.

RUMSFELD: I was elected to Congress in 1962 at the age of 30.

RUSH: Okay, 30, and you are now eighty what?

RUMSFELD: Sixty-eight going on 69. Seventy-eight! Seventy-eight going on 79.

RUSH: Seventy-eight. And footnotes, documentation, it is an eye on government that I don't think anybody else who's ever served has offered like you have here, and I think it's wonderful. I wish you the best with it. Proceeds go to the Rumsfeld Foundation, correct?

RUMSFELD: Well, actually, we have a foundation that does four things, but all the proceeds from the book, my proceeds, are gonna go to the charities that support the troops, their families, and the wounded. And every nickel that we receive from this book is gonna go to support the wonderful men and women who serve in the United States Armed Forces and their families who also serve.

RUSH: Mr. Secretary, thank you very much. I've appreciated it. And I appreciate your giving us the time today here on the EIB Network. Thank you so much.

RUMSFELD: Thank you so much, Rush. Good to be with you.

RUSH: Same here. That's the former defense secretary, former secretary of practically everything, Donald Rumsfeld, and the title of his book again is Known and Unknown: A Memoir. When we started it was number nine on Amazon. About 25 minutes ago it was number six. And it will soon be number one, deservedly so.
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RUSH: You know, I said this throughout the Bush administration, and I said it several times when Secretary Rumsfeld was attacked personally by the forces in this country opposed to this country's success, victory: "Thank God for men like Donald Rumsfeld." He was elected at age 32, and except for just a few years in the private sector -- which were not insignificant years. He was CEO of G. D. Searle. They developed and introduced to the market as par tame known as Equal and a bunch of other things. He went back to the government at all levels, was secretary of defense twice, putting up with all of that stuff for the sake of what he believed in: The United States of America. Thank God for men like him: A true patriot, a genuine patriot. I don't know about you, folks -- especially after I met him the first time and found out what kind of man he is, what kind of person is he is.

It just infuriated me to listen to people of this country trying to destroy him. Same with George W. Bush. Not just disagree politically, not just disagree policy-wise, but actually try to destroy him. To have to sit here after going through all that for eight years and listen to all these moaning leftists about the lack of civility in our politics and stuff just makes you want to puke and gag on it, because if anybody's the architect of a decline in standards, of decency, patriotism, or what have you, it's the American left. You wonder how people like Rumsfeld put up with it. He didn't need it! He could have left at any time and headed down to the hog farm or gone out and hunted ducks with Cheney, whatever they wanted to do. He could have gone to the Chesapeake Bay shore. They coulda done anything they wanted, and they didn't. They hung in there. They weren't being paid a lot of money. They're just genuine statesmen. To have to sit there and get reamed by a bunch of people that couldn't even put on their socks, it was just offensive as it could be.

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« Reply #206 on: February 08, 2011, 10:25:31 PM »
I sure miss having an adult running Defense.
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Anderson Cooper Devotes CNN Broadcast to Lies of the Regime
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RUSH: You've got to hear something else.  Last night on Anderson Cooper 69, he opened his show this way.

COOPER: We begin tonight, as always, keeping 'em honest.  Again tonight it is the Mubarak regime we hope to keep honest by pointing out the lies they continue to tell.[/size]

RUSH: Now, imagine if CNN devoted one broadcast to the lies of our regime.  Look at what they openly say here.  Anderson Cooper 69 says, "We begin tonight, as always, keeping 'em honest.  Again tonight it is the Mubarak regime we hope to keep honest by pointing out the lies they continue to tell." No lies coming out of our regime.  Nobody here is misrepresenting what's going on in Egypt.  No, the only lies with coming from Mubarak and his regime.  CNN is on the case.  Anderson, if you're gonna go out there and check lies, I got a minefield for you.

You can start exploring in Washington, DC.  There are all kinds of lies being told there, Anderson, and you don't have to go over to Egypt and get beat upside the head to find 'em.  All right.  Let's see.  I don't know.  I don't know if Anderson's back.  I haven't seen CNN in I really can't tell you how long.  I can't tell you the last time I've had CNN on. Honestly.  I don't know if he's back or not.  The sound bite here doesn't tell me where he is.  It just says, "Last night on CNN's Anderson Cooper 69, he opened the show and said this about his show," and we played the sound bite.  Where he is, where he was, where he's been, where he's going.

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RUSH: I am told, ladies and gentlemen, Anderson Cooper is back home.  Anderson Cooper is back in the United States, which is one reason he's probably talking so big.  "Yeah, we're here to expose the lies of the Mubarak regime!" He wasn't talking that way they were beating him upside the head over there.  Now he's back here with the safe confines of the TimeWarner Center up there at Columbus Circle in New York, it's easy to talk big.


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« Reply #208 on: February 09, 2011, 05:28:30 PM »
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Who thinks this commerical is about race?

Shirley Jackson Lee thought it demeaning to blacks and cited Black History Month as no time to show such crap.

Rush's take was that the 30 sec spot was a homerun.  That the demographics show AA women to buy pepsi over coke.

Then he said that the highest insult to a black woman was to have to lose more and more black men to white women....especially blonds
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« Reply #209 on: February 09, 2011, 09:29:19 PM »
I don't like it for people of any color.  It isn't funny.

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IMHO the best commercials on TV right now is the GE commercials, whoever they hired has really hit a home run... I can't stand GE, either but I always watch their commercials with the elephant and the line dancers.
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Clueless Clapper Calls Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood "Secular"
February 10, 2011



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RUSH: This morning during a House Intelligence Committee hearing on international security threats, the National Intelligence Director James Clapper testified.  Sue Myrick, North Carolina:  "Do you consider the Muslim Brotherhood a danger based on their extremist ideology? And can you speak to the validity of the memorandum that I mentioned? And do you see the Muslim Brotherhood as a danger to America based on that?" Now, listen to this.

CLAPPER:  Let me just speak briefly to the Muslim Brotherhood as an international movement.  The term "Muslim Brotherhood" is an umbrella term for a variety of movements, in the case of Egypt, a very heterogeneous group, largely secular, which has eschewed violence and has decried Al-Qaida as a perversion of Islam.

RUSH:  Holy smokes, that is so wrong.  That is moronically incompetent.  The Muslim Brotherhood is secular?  The Muslim Brotherhood has nothing to do with Islam?  And this is the National Intelligence Director?  Not even NBC's reporter on the ground can stomach that one.  This afternoon on Andrea Mitchell, NBC News, Washington, she spoke to their correspondent over there, a guy by the name of Richard Engel. This is the exchange.  She's asks him about Clapper, who said that the Muslim Brotherhood is largely secular.

MITCHELL: James Clapper, who says that it is, quote, "largely secular."



ENGEL:  That is terrifying. It's not A-Qaeda, it's not the Taliban, but it is not secular. And that is a wild misreading of this organization.

RUSH:  That is terrifying.  It's not Al-Qaeda, not the Taliban, but it's not secular, and that's a wild misreading of this organization.  Well, why would he have it any more wrong than Obama does?  It's just a bunch of young people who want their Obama in Egypt.  So now we know what this is all about.  The value of whatever's going on in Egypt, I mean you can sit there and look at this and you can say it's marvelous, it's people standing up for democracy, it's people wanting freedom, it's historic, whatever, you can try to make this out to be as important as the fall of the Berlin Wall if you want to, but you better understand that our president looks at it as nothing more than a cheap addition to his campaign.  He looks at this as an opportunity to equate it with his first campaign and to tell a bunch of college students these people are simply looking for their Obama.  Egyptians simply want their version of me.  Don't doubt me for a moment that's what he's saying.  And then his National Intelligence Director thinks this is a secular group?  That is terrifying.  And those are the words of a State-Controlled Media guy.  And it is terrifying.  Let's go back and listen, this guy Clapper, December 21st, 2010, ABC's World News Tonight with Diane Sawyer.  She interviewed Big Sis, John Brennan, and James Clapper.  During the interview, Sawyer had this exchange with Clapper and Brennan about terror arrests in London earlier that day.

SAWYER:  London.  How serious is it?  Any implication that it was coming here?  Any of the things that they have seen were coming here? (long, awkward pause)  Director Clapper?

CLAPPER: London?

BRENNAN:
The arrests of the 12 individuals --  

SAWYER:  The arrest of the 12.

BRENNAN:  -- by the British this morning.

SAWYER:  Yes.  

BRENNAN:  This is something that the British informed us about early this morning when it was taking place.

RUSH: He didn't even know about it.  He was not even aware, the National Intelligence Director was not even aware of the London arrests.  That's why we left that pregnant pause in there when she said, "Any of the things that they have seen were coming here?  Director Clapper?"  He said, "London?"  What are you talking, London?  Muslim Brotherhood is secular?  Finally this exchange in the interview later on, she had to ask Clapper again because she can't believe he doesn't know about it.

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 I was a little surprised you didn't know about London, Director Clapper.

CLAPPER:  No, I'm sorry, I didn't.

RUSH: You know why he didn't know anything about it?  'Cause the regime didn't figure out any way to use it for their reelection campaign.  Who could forget the December 21 -- well, who coulda missed 'em when they wanted, the terror attacks in London they reputed, and he doesn't know about it, the National Intelligence Director, and then he comes out and says that the Muslim Brotherhood is secular, meaning they're not tied to Islam in any way.  They're not Islamists, they're secular, they're good guys.  Man are we screwed if something really serious ever happened, we are screwed.


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Rush mentioned today that he has big news, that we won't like, re the Repub's plan to defund Obamacare.....he will be talking about it tomorrow :(
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Rush mentioned today that he has big news, that we won't like, re the Repub's plan to defund Obamacare.....he will be talking about it tomorrow :(

Yes, I heard that.....when he was speaking with the gentleman who was upset that $100 Billion in promised cuts was only going to be $33 Billion. (since amended)
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Either Boehner and his Lieutenants are only marginally more competent than the Obama team or they grossly misread the voters in November and think they can play us for fools.
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« Reply #215 on: February 10, 2011, 10:38:38 PM »
Conservative Voters Rankled by Size of Republican Budget Cuts
February 10, 2011

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RUSH: Tony in Edmonds, Washington.  Hello, and welcome to the EIB Network.  Hello, sir.

CALLER:  Hi, Rush.  Hey, I'm concerned that this issue in Egypt -- which is very important, yet I'm concerned -- is overshadowing the budget issues that the Republicans are doing right now.  You probably heard of the reductions in spending that Ryan's committee has recommended for Fiscal 2011 are like $32 billion.  I mean, this is just outrageous when they were talking about a $100 billion.

RUSH:  Yeah.

CALLER:  Now they're talking $32 billion? I mean, where was Obama at this point in his first year in office?  I mean, he was passing a stupid stimulus bill, and where are we in our first year in control of the House?  We're talking about a measly $32 billion reduction?  I mean, here you got Rand Paul talking about $500 billion in the Senate, and what does Paul Ryan and this Hal Rogers in appropriations do? This guy is a disaster.  It's just disheartening, and I'll tell you, people are gonna come unglued when they catch wind that the Republicans are acting in this fashion.

RUSH:  I'm looking for a column. Here it is.  I'm glad you brought this up, because this happens to be after the unemployment news, the second story top of my stack.  I have a piece here by Quin Hillyer who writes for the American Spectator.  It's a blog post, and he has a piece that he's written aimed at people who hold the view that you just expressed.  It says: "Budget Cutters Should Chill Out." Now, stick with me on this, Tony.  I just want to get your reaction what he says here.  He says, "Before I say what I'm going to say, let me re-establish my bona fides, although I'll still get slammed by angry extremists anyway. But I'm a budget cutter's budget cutter. I served on the Approps Committee when it actually cut $50 billion in domestic discretionary spending in two years, which back then was REAL money.

"It would be the equivalent of about $120 billion today ... I did so in 1998. I did so in 1999. I did so every single year of the Bush administration..." He's got a track record here of complaining about spending that is as documented as yours is.  "Nonetheless..." This is a key point here: "Nonetheless, the conniption fits a lot of the House freshmen are having about Paul Ryan's $32 billion in proposed domestic discretionary cuts are totally misplaced. Anybody who thought the $100 billion cut pledge applied to this FISCAL year, which is almost half finished, is crazy. The pledge was for this year -- this first legislative year of the new Congress, meaning for the first full budget this Congress gets to work on, which is that of FY 2012," which will start in October.

So he says there's nobody better at cutting budgets, nobody knows more about what he's doing right now than Paul Ryan.  "If the GOP cuts willy-nilly, a full $100 billion for THIS fiscal year rather than the coming one, I guarantee there will be horror stories. I guarantee there will be mistakes. I guarantee there will be a political reversal that will harm or destroy our REAL objective, which is to make significant, PERMANENT, politically sustainable budget savings that lead to a stable, balanced budget while conservatives still hold sway in Congress for a lasting time. The freshmen, and the outside conservatives who egg them on, flat-out don't know what they are doing. They need to plan to win the long game, rather than demand a short-game, instant-gratification win that turns into a horribly Pyrrhic victory." So apparently he has heard people like you and he is fit to be tied that you're putting unfair demands on the Republicans.  

CALLER: I can't buy that malarkey.  First of all we're talking about a $3.5 trillion budget, you know, and the idea that we it's a squeeze to cut barrel 1%?  It's not even 1% that they're talking.  I mean, this is ridiculous.  We're looking for symbolism, okay? Maybe it's just symbolism we're looking for but at the same time these guys are post-come in with guts and they're supposed to... To cut a hundred billion out of $3.5 trillion, that radical?  I mean, come on, man! We need response today.  We aren't looking for Fscal 2012. We're looking for fiscal 2011 and I don't care if there's seven months left or three months left, you know, we've got $3.5 trillion to work with, and you divide that by a quarter, you know, you still got a lot of money shloshing around there.  Don't give me this malarkey.  It's too much.

RUSH: Okay.  So the Republicans made a pledge.  It was part of their campaign.  They are not meeting the terms of the pledge, as far as you're concerned --

CALLER:  Yep, yep.

RUSH:  -- and this is not good. Even if people think that these cuts will not pass the Senate, even if people think the cuts will not be approved, they still made a pledge to do this, and do it and apply the pressure and make them veto the cuts, right?

CALLER:  That right.  That's right. I mean, why pass this repeal Obamacare if it's not gonna pass the Senate?  I mean don't give me this line that, "Oh, we can't get by the Senate if we make radical cuts in this budget."

RUSH: Well, I... (sigh) Look, I'm not prepared to give you the details now.  Maybe tomorrow.  I have to digest a little bit about a couple things that I heard just before the program today, but if what I was told is correct (and I have to check it) you are not gonna be happy about the attempts to defund Obamacare, either.

CALLER:  Mmm. Well --

RUSH:  I'll have details of that. I've got them now, I just have to check 'em.  I just want to make sure that it's accurate. Everybody would love to use this show to get their pet peeve point out.  I am diluted every day with people, "Rush, you gotta say this! You gotta make sure people hear this! You gotta!" So I have to check this out, but if this is true, if you're upset over the difference between $32 billion and a $100 billion in budget cuts, the defunding via the continuation resolution of Obamacare (snorts), you're gonna forget about this. You're gonna be off on another warpath.

CALLER:  Well, let me make one last point before I hang up.

RUSH:  And I'll tell you what it also said, the point of this note that I got today, is that the Republican leadership is more concerned with the rules of the House and points of order and making sure that the opposition is not shut out in debate -- 'cause they were shut out when the Democrats ran the show -- than they are with the substance of a lot of this legislation.  These are why I must check these things.  So tomorrow's Open Line Friday, but you don't want to miss it.

CALLER:  Well, let me make one last point: If these guys behave in this fashion and make measly cuts, in 2012 they're gonna split the ticket. There's gonna be a big segment, a lot of us Tea Partiers, who do. I'm a staunch Republican, but I am fit to be tied.

RUSH:  I know, I know, I know.

CALLER:  People are gonna bail on the Republicans; they're gonna split the ticket.

RUSH:  Bah, they're gonna bail on certain ones.  I understand you, but -- but --





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« Reply #216 on: February 11, 2011, 12:15:25 PM »
Who actually believe the GOP 'old guard' would go quietly?
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Re: Rush Limbaugh Live Thread
« Reply #217 on: February 14, 2011, 06:03:23 PM »



If Freedom is Sweeping the Middle East, Why the Exodus to Europe?
February 14, 2011


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RUSH: Rick in Norfolk, Virginia, great to have you on the EIB Network.  Hello.

CALLER:  Hi, Rush.  It's a pleasure speaking with the best political commentator on the scene today.

RUSH:  Thank you very, very much, sir.  I appreciate that, I really do.

CALLER:  I would just like to make a comment about I think one of the main impacts of the Arab upheavals across north Africa, which will result in greatly increased illegal immigration into Europe as we saw this weekend with 6,000 Tunisians landing in Italy and causing Berlusconi to issue a state of emergency --

RUSH:  Wait a minute just a second.  I thought this was all about freedom.  Why are people leaving Tunisia for Italy?


CALLER:  Because Tunisians, as all of the other Arabs, see no connection between political rights and the economic basket cases that their countries are in.

RUSH:  Right.  It was a facetious question.  And of course Sarkozy said last week multiculturalism has failed and Angela Merkel said multiculturalism has failed.

CALLER:  Well, Merkel said not everybody who doesn't want to stay in Tunisia can come to Europe. So I think you're going to see increased right wing parties in Europe do better, anti-immigrant parties. You're going to have to see some actions by Merkel and Sarkozy on setting up something between Europe and the north African coasts, because the influx will be so tremendous, because with the power vacuum that's going to exist there, the ability to leave boat people will be somewhat similar to the Haitian situation after the fall of the Duvaliers in Haiti with us.

RUSH:  Yeah, but isn't one of the Duvaliers back?  Baby Doc, Grandbaby Doc, Big Doc, somebody's back there.  One of the Duvaliers came back for something.
CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: Baby Doc.



CALLER: But that's like 20 years.

RUSH: Two questions for you, because you seem to be up to speed on this. You're describing a scenario which has refugees from the newly liberated Tunisia spreading throughout Europe, in this case Italy. If things don't go well in Egypt we can expect probably refugees from Egypt trying to find places to go in Europe and perhaps even here. Who watching this would be very happy about it?

CALLER: Well, first of all, whatever entity is the governments in these places would be happy because the refugees would be sending back money from Europe back to the country so it would be a source of income. So I don't think whatever entity takes over the legal responsibilities of guarding the ports and so forth and so on would be too against a massive emigration, which would lower the pressure internally in the Arab countries as well as provide some source income from Europe once they get a job.

RUSH: Perhaps. Depends on whether they can get a job. But despite any of that, picture, if you will, a map, draw arrows -- Egypt, Tunisia, and wherever else -- the arrows represent refugees flooding European states. Who looking at that map would be ecstatic?

CALLER: Well, it will eventually create an intensified Islamification of Europe.

RUSH: Ahhhh. Ohhhh. So there might, we could theorize, be Islamists who would look at a map like that and see success?

CALLER: Definitely.

RUSH: Over, as a result of so-called freedom uprisings in nations from which the refugees are fleeing?

CALLER: Well, it would be a loss of freedom for Europe in a strange way.

RUSH: And you couple that with Sarkozy and Merkel saying multiculturalism has failed.

CALLER: They're gonna have to go further than that. I mean they have 20,000 troops now in Lebanon doing nothing. They may have to move them somewhere closer to the European mainland.

RUSH: Yeah, but are they actually going to do that?

CALLER: Well, Berlusconi appealed to the European union aid.

RUSH: Berlusconi's got his own problems. You know, I'm glad you mentioned Berlusconi. You know who's mad at Berlusconi? Italian women! Italian women are on the march against him. It's about time. Seriously. They're marching on Berlusconi as women in this country shoulda marched on Clinton. Now, if you're a womanizer or a sexist you don't understand what I'm saying. But I mean here's a guy who has made objects out of women, he's objectified them, they're to be used and tossed aside. And the female population of Italy is saying, "You know, we don't like the impression the world has of our president, the way he treats women and what it says of Italian women." So they're doing their own little version of protesting Berlusconi, coupled with all of his other problems, I mean he might think that could be a big one.

CALLER: Yeah. By the way, the EU foreign policy chief, Catherine Ashton, is in Tunisia now to discuss the issue of these Tunisians leaving and going to Europe.

RUSH: Yeah? What's she telling who?

CALLER: Well, who knows. There is some kind of caretaker government there which has --

RUSH: Yeah, but what's she saying to them?

CALLER: She's saying you have to stem the flood.

RUSH: Right. (laughing) The fact that she has to go there and say you have to stem this flood illustrates the futility of it all. Anyway, I mean if you're a poor country, the best thing that can happen is a bunch of people leave your country, best thing in the world that can happen.

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RUSH: By the way, the news accounts say that the European Union representative is in Tunisia to fast track a trade deal, not to stem the exodus, although it could be going on, we don't know.


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State-Run Media Beg Egyptian Citizens to Praise Pharaoh Obama
February 14, 2011



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RUSH:  Now they tell us. I'm looking at a headline here on Fox. Now they're telling us "Unrest Spreading Across the Middle East."  How can that be?  I thought the Middle East was solved.  I thought we had an uprising, a democratic uprising. They got rid of that evil guy, Mubarak; and Obama went out there, did everything he could to make all this happen.  "Unrest Spreading Across the Middle East." How in the world can that be?  Folks, you ever wonder how the opposite of what we're always told, happens? I've got a whole stack of stories this Egypt business in the Middle East as well as the budget.  The Muslim Brotherhoods have an English website, and here's their headline: "Senior MB Leaders: Egypt's Uprising a Prelude to a Radical Change in the Arab World." Really?  Are you surprised?  I can't say that I am.  

From the New York Times:  "Iranian Leaders Vow to Crush March," and if you read this New York Times story, in the middle of this piece, it seems the New York Times agrees with the Iranian regime -- the mullahs, the Ahmadinejads -- on the need to crush this uprising.  It says that Iran is unlike Egypt and the rest of the Middle East. It's already had its revolution.  So this would be a counterrevolution.  Iran had its revolution in 1979.  This uprising is not good.  So whatever's necessary to suppress this democratic uprising in Iran, the mullahs need to go right ahead and do it.  Conflicting, conflicting, all over the place.  Nicholas Kristof, New York Times a couple days ago: "What Egypt Can Teach America." (laughing) What Egypt can teach us? This is an incredible piece!  I, of course, during the focus of the program today will quote various elements of this and show you what I mean.  Just incredible.  And then another piece here from another blogger: "Egypt as an Opportunity" for us.  The job of sorting this out gets harder and harder.
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RUSH:  Friday afternoon, CNN's Newsroom, live in Cairo.  After Hosni Mubarak stepped down from power, the senior international correspondent Nic Robertson and a man identified as Achmed have this exchange about the Egyptian anti-government protests and Pharaoh Obama.

ROBERTSON:  Achmed, you've been here down here on the square for many days.  The United States and the international community. You've just listened to President Obama saying that America will support Egypt if it wants help and assistance, and hopes that there will be a good transition for jobs for the young people.  What would be your message for President Obama?

ACHMED: We don't know, actually, who he supports.  He serves for his own purposes, and the Egyptian people serve for our freedom and democracy.  Any democratic country should see for the people, not for its own purposes.

RUSH:  You gotta love old Achmed here.  Here's Nic Robertson... Now, where is Nic Robertson?  Nic Robertson's president middle of all this, he's out there at Tahrir Squirrel -- Tahrir Square, which is a circle -- and he's in the middle of this, and these people are feeling euphoric.  They think that what they've done is gotten rid of Mubarak.  What they've done is permitted a military coup and the military guy running Egypt now is Mubarak's best buddy. The guy that runs the military. They have turn up the constitution. Not that that matters much, but still they tore it up.  They have established themselves as overall rulers and have said it's gonna be this way for at least six months.  People are still gathered in the square there.

Now, I don't know what people thought was gonna happen.  I don't know what people's expectations were.  But the military is running the show, led by one of Mubarak closest -- really, closest personal friends.  There's no call for elections, none of this stuff that this all was supposedly about.  Yet all that by Friday still hadn't settled in. They're still feeling euphoric.  So here's a CNN reporter in the midst of all this and he's found this guy Achmed, and his purpose -- stop and think of this.  The CNN reporter's purpose is to find somebody in the midst of the Egyptian uprising that will sing the praises of Barack Obama.  I guarantee you the last thing on this guy's mind, Achmed's, is Barack Obama!  Rightly so.  

This guy thinks that his country is now gonna be free. He thinks he might have a chance to make more than two bucks a day.  He thinks that maybe he might have a chance at some freedom.  That's what he thinks, and here comes this CNN reporter -- an American reporter with a British accent -- asking what this guy thinks of Obama! These reporters think that everybody in the world looks at every event through the prism of Obama?  This is hilarious.  "What would your message be for President Obama?" (laughing) The guy's not even thinking about Barack Obama!  Of course what he was supposed to say was, "We love Obama! Obama has made it possible for us to be free here in Egypt! Pharaoh Obama is great! Long live the pharaoh! We can't wait for Obama to come here and supervise our election.

"Barack Obama has made it possible. Barack Obama told Mubarak to go and Mubarak is gone and Mubarak is at the Sharm el-Sheikh Casino, whatever he's doing, and we are free!"  That's what this guy wants.  Instead Achmed says, "We do not know who Obama supports.  He has his own purposes.  The Egyptian people search for our freedom and democracy.  Any democratic country should see for the people." So this guy telling the report what-for.  This is great! Old Achmed is saying essentially," What the hell are you asking me?  Obama's in this for himself.  He's not over here.  This is about us."  But Nic Robertson, undeterred, found another peasant to try to praise President Obama, and once again he doesn't find what he's looking for.  

ROBERTSON:  Mustapha is joining me now.  We just heard President Obama say that he wants to extend, eh, support and assistance to Egypt and Egyptians if they want any, and he hopes that there are more jobs for the young people in the future.  What's your message for President Obama?

MUSTAPHA:  Well, my message to President Obama is just, "We started this revolution without any outside help, and we are going to finish it also without any outside help."

RUSH:  Okay. So Nic Robertson's 0-for-2, here gang. He starts out with Achmed. Achmed tells him to pound sand. So Nic Robertson traipses over and finds Mustapha.  "Hey, Mustapha hey, old buddy, old pal! Nic Robertson, CNN, here.  What is your message for President Obama?  Obama gave a speech. He wants to extend support and assistance to Egypt.  He hopes that there are more jobs for young people.  What is your message for Obama?"  This is incredible, as though Obama's in the Oval Office and Nic Robertson is out there trying to get kudos for Obama, and poor old Mustapha doesn't give them. He says, "Well, my message to President Obama is: We started this revolution without any outside help and we are going to finish it also."  So poor old Nic Robertson, State-Controlled Media: O-for-2.  
I love this, by the way.  Don't misunderstand.  What does CNN care about the Egyptian people?  They gotta job to do. The gotta get Obama reelected.  That's what they're out there trying to do. (interruption) What, I'm gonna get in trouble for making fun of the way Egyptians talk? I'm not trying to make fun-a anybody here.  I'm trying to distinguish their voice from Nic Robertson. (interruption)  Oh, Cripes. If I get in trouble of this, people are wound too tight.  Anyway, Nic Robertson still has Mustapha. He's not giving up here.  He follows up, and he gets more honest analysis from Mustapha than you get from the pundits that CNN pays to sit in their studio.  So Nic Robertson, after hearing, "My message to Obama is we started this revolution without any outside help, and we are going to finish it without any," Nic Robertson persists.

ROBERTSON:  Are you pleased that President Obama has come out, however, now and said he supports this change and supports the people and supports the young people and -- and what they've done?

MUSTAPHA:  Well, actually President Obama's views were kind of conflicting during the last week --

RUSH: (laughing)

MUSTAPHA: -- but now he's saying that he's supporting the change.

RUSH:  I mean this is priceless stuff! This is so great. Nic Robertson, first Achmed. "Achmed, what do you have to say to Obama?"  "Diddly-squat! What's Obama got to do with this?" "Okay, I'll move on." Robertson finds Mustapha: "What's your message to Obama?"  "Well, we started without him we're gonna finish without him."  Robertson persists, though. "Are you pleased that Obama...?" (laughing) Folks, I wish I could think of an analogy on the fly here. (laughing) These people think that they have just won a life of freedom after all these years of poverty and oppression, and they got a reporter asking them about Obama! So Nic Robertson says, "Are you pleased? Are you pleased at least Obama's come out, he supports this change and what you've done? Are you pleased with that?"

ROBERTSON:  The view from here is one of very happy to now to hear that President Obama has swung behind the people.

RUSH:  That's Nic Robertson, finally saying -- after all of this, after all that you just heard, he says -- "The view here from here is one of very happy, to now hear that Obama has swung behind the people."  Not one of the people he talked to had anything positive to say about Obama!  Achmed. Mustapha twice.  It comes time for the wrap-up, here is audio sound bite number 16. It comes time for the wrap-up again and here's Nic Robertson, you've just heard Achmed and Mustapha twice basically say, "He's irrelevant. Why are you asking us about Obama?" Here's the wrap up.

ROBERTSON:  The view from here is one of very happy to now to hear that President Obama has swung behind the people.

RUSH: (laughing) Nic Robertson, CNN.  Is there any doubt what their purpose is?  Get Obama reelected.  Try to think back. Something like this happened in the American Revolution. You know, and George Washington has just finished proclaiming victory, and some reporter comes up and asks him, "Well, what do you think about what Attila the Hun said about this?" or (laughing) pick somebody that's equally irrelevant. (laughing)  "Do you think the Barbary Coast pirates are happy here to see your revolution is succeeding? You know, they played a big role in this.  They're really behind you."  So we're not through.  You know, this Google executive, the Egyptian Google guy, is said to be one of the leaders of the protest.  So Harry Smith on CBS' Slay the Nation was talking to the Egyptian Google engineer, Wael Ghonim and they had this exchange about the anti-government protest and Obama. (laughs) So CNN and now CBS, asking all these people in Egypt, "What about Obama? Aren't you happy? Obama did it, right? Obama made it possible. Obama caused the revolution! Obama inspired you. Obama got you freedom. Obama's gonna get you a job isn't that right?"
SMITH:  President Obama came out several times during the revolution; had things to say. Did it help?

GHONIM:  We don't really need him, and I don't think that... I wrote a tweet. I wrote, "Dear Western Governments:  You have been supporting the regime that was oppressing us for 30 years.  Please don't get involved now.  We don't need you."

RUSH:  And that's Google, folks! That is a Google executive.  That's not Mustapha or Achmed.  That is an Egyptian Google executive: "We don't really need" Obama.  They don't really need Obama. He was all over the board here before this thing all happened. It was clear that Obama said everything possible so that when it was all over he could go back and say, "See what I said?" So he could position himself as in the proper position of having forecast, predicted, or even caused all of this to happen.

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RUSH: To Corpus Christi, Texas, this is... Is that right?  Usama?  Usama from Corpus Christi.

CALLER: Hey! Greetings, Rush.

RUSH: Great to have you on the program, sir.

CALLER:  Okay, great to talk to you.  I have a great respect for your professional opinions, despite the fact that I disagree with you a lot but I still listen to you.  I'm talking to you about the Egypt revolution -- which I hope that you call it "revolution," not just "uprising."  This is one thing.  The other thing is I don't understand why as a conservative leader in our free nation that you don't stand with the people who seek their freedom.  This really bothers me, and I want to understand from you why you don't support the freedom for the Egyptian people.

RUSH:  I never said that I don't support the freedom of the Egyptian people.  I'm just not sure that's what this is ultimately gonna lead to, nor am I convinced yet that that's what this was really all about. (sigh) Look, I don't knee-jerk react to anything.  When the result of this is a military leadership in Egypt, that traditionally has not led to individual freedom.  I believe second revolutions -- you know, this is the first phase. There's another phase of this to come, we don't know yet what it is.  The best way to describe myself is I don't jump on bandwagons.

CALLER:  Egypt gained independence from the British, you know, early in the fifties. In 1952 they got their independence but they didn't get their freedom.  Now they were seeking the freedom for 58 years, and finally they "uprise," and they did get the first step on the way --

RUSH:  Well, this is --

CALLER:  -- for liberty and freedom, and we as a Free World here, we should support those people.  Regardless our doubt about the outcome of this, we should support people seeking freedom.  You are conservative; I am conservative.  

RUSH:  Wait a second, now.  I don't know why you're hitting me.  I have never once anywhere or at any time on this program opposed freedom.  What I am is cautious.  The people behind this don't seem to be all that interested in freedom to me.  The Muslim Brotherhood is not about freedom to me.  The Middle East is not a repository of it.  I hope that it would be, but I'm just not a bandwagon jumper yet.  I'm cautious about this.
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RUSH: A protest leading to Hosni Mubarak's removal is not yet democracy.  Even voting is not democracy.  A one-time vote is not democracy -- as in Hamas in Gaza.  Not democracy.  We all hope that Egyptians enjoy freedom, which they've not had for 5,000 years.  We'll see.  I think the whole world would be great if conservatism triumphed everywhere.  I think if capitalism triumphed everywhere, you have no larger with, bigger supporter of that than I.  Freedom, conservatism, free markets, market principles.  That's not what we're talking about yet here in Egypt.  A military coup, soft or otherwise, does not mean democracy.  We just have to wait.  

Also, look: I shared with you these pathetic sound bites of a CNN reporter talking to protesters -- demonstrators, freedom lovers, whoever they are -- in Egypt, and all this reporter cared about is what these people think of Obama.  What does that tell you about the rest of the reporting of all this?  Ladies and gentlemen, you must realize, if you don't -- and I spent a lot of time on this last week and people asked, "Why are you wasting so much time on Egypt, Rush?  It's over." I'm talking about it because it was nothing about Egypt on our news.  It was all about how they can build Obama up; it's all about Obama's reelection; it's all about trying to remake Obama, rebuild him after this horrible year he had last year, the devastating election results.

This whole Egypt thing was used for purely domestic purposes here, and all this talk about all these people -- I'm talking about the State-Controlled Drive-By Media -- looking at this as an opportunity for democracy in Egypt? That's not what they saw. This is not their interest.  This is totally about Obama and how they could use this event to bring him back.  So quite naturally I'm gonna be suspicious of all the reporting involved in it, pure and simple.  So if the people who are there for primarily for that tell us... The whole point here is if we know the whole point of covering the Egyptian uprising was to make Obama look good, then clearly they think the way to do it at that is to put Obama out of front of a big democracy movement.  So they're gonna call it a democracy movement, but we know to be suspicious of everything these people tell us for years and years and years.  

The media was just as happy when the Shah of Iran left power, just as ecstatic.  And look at the difference now that we have in Iran versus what was under the Shah.  This in Egypt looks suspiciously familiar to how Gamal Abdul Nasser came to power.  So 'til it all plays out, as far as I'm concerned, you don't jump the shark here and claim that it's about something that it may not be about.  (interruption) Musharraf, yeah. It was the same thing in Pakistan. Musharraf went, yeah, that was great news, great news! Obama made sure got rid of Musharraf.  Nic Robertson...  I might have to play those sound bites again in the third hour because people missed 'em in the first hour.  They're just hilarious, but they put into total perspective what this whole Egyptian uprising has been all about for our media.
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RUSH: If you were not here in the first hour -- and even if you were, these are worth hearing again -- I love these. (chuckles) CNN has a reporter stationed right out there in the crowd in Cairo, right amidst all the protesters on Friday. After Obama has made his speech, which is after this program ends, Nic Robertson first finds a protester by the name of Achmed.  Now, as you will hear, Nic Robertson of CNN, in the midst of this military coup -- these people are, at this point in time, deliriously happy.  Mubarak's gone (I mean, really gone) they are thinking that they have been heard, theory thinking that they're going to get what they want, whatever it is.  In the case of Achmed and his compatriot you'll hear from soon, Mustapha, they really think freedom is coming, economic and otherwise.  They're all excited about it.  Here comes this American reporter with a British accent asking them what they think of Obama. (laughing) I mean, just that is hilarious to me.  So these are kind of tough to hear 'cause there's crowd noise and a number of other things, but listen carefully.  Nic Robertson in Cairo, CNN's Newsroom live after Mubarak steps down last Friday.  

ROBERTSON:  Achmed, you've been here down here on the square for many days.  The United States and the international community has just listened to President Obama saying that America will support Egypt if it wants help and assistance, and hopes that there will be a good transition for jobs for the young people.  What would be your message for President Obama?

ACHMED: We don't know, actually, who he supports.  He serves for his own purposes, and the Egyptian people serve for our freedom and democracy.  Any democratic country should see for the people, not for its own purposes.

RUSH: This is Achmed taking a tennis ball and stuffing it down Nic Robertson's throat. "What would your message be for Obama?"  Now, these guys have just been -- as far as they think, they've just been -- granted their freedom.  This is Christmas morning.  It's like asking George Washington, "Hey, what do you think of what the king of Spain thinks about your revolution?"  Hey, Achmed, what is your message for Obama?  And Achmed says, "We don't know who he supports.  He serves his own purposes.  We don't care about Obama." But Nic Robertson is undeterred! He heads on down the path and finds another peasant to try to praise the pharaoh, and he doesn't find what he wants again.  This time he runs into Mustapha.  

ROBERTSON:  Mustapha is joining me now.  We just heard President Obama say that he wants to extend, eh, support and assistance to Egypt and Egyptians if they want any, and he hopes that there are more jobs for the young people in the future.  What's your message for President Obama?

MUSTAPHA:  Well, my message to President Obama is just, "We started this revolution without any outside help, and we are going to finish it also without any outside help."

RUSH:  Okay, so Mustapha says, "Who?"  Basically he says, who?  "What is your message for President Obama?  Who wants jobs for the young people?"  Who?  We started this without him, we're gonna finish this without him.  What do you mean, Obama?  Nic Robertson, undeterred, continues to probe Mustapha for the answer that he, CNN, and Obama want.  

ROBERTSON:  Are you pleased that President Obama has come out, however, now and said he supports this change and supports the people and supports the young people and -- and what they've done?

MUSTAPHA:  Well, actually President Obama's views were kind of conflicting during the last week but now he's saying that he's supporting the change.

RUSH: "Well, actually Obama's views were kind of conflicting during the last week."  So they're not buying the whole premise.  Nic Robertson's premise is jammed right down his throat.  Yet you heard, you just heard, Achmed and Mustapha both told Nic Robertson: Go pound sand, buddy! Here's how Nic Robertson told CNN viewers exactly what they had just seen.  

ROBERTSON:  The view from here is one of very happy to now to hear that President Obama has swung behind the people.

RUSH:  (laughing) This is incredible!  They told him, "Who?  We don't care.  He didn't care about us; it doesn't matter," and yet the report ends with: "The view from here is one of very happy to now hear that President Obama has swung behind the people."  It's all about Obama as far as the American media is concerned. I think it's instructive, interesting, and hilarious all in one combo.
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RUSH: Jim in Syracuse, New York.  Hello, sir.  How are you?

CALLER:  Hey, Rush, man, mega no bandwagon dittos to you brother, I'm telling you, man.  I just got a quick question.  When Obama was talking on the airwaves here, and in Egypt Twitter down and everything was down, who the heck was he talking to?

RUSH:  Last Friday when he was doing his speech?  Is that when they closed down all communications in Egypt?

CALLER:  Yeah.

RUSH:  No Twitter, no Facebook, no My Butt, no television?

CALLER:  All that good stuff, yeah, who was he talking to?  I don't get it.

RUSH:  Huh.  Well, now, that's a good question.  I did not know that during the pharaoh's remarks that they had closed down all media in Egypt.

CALLER:  Well, it was down, the way I understood it from the media, and who are they gonna talk to now that they've all been kicked out.  I don't know.

RUSH:  I know that a couple or three times they shut down all Internet service during the course of this thing.  I do not know that they did so after Mubarak announced he was leaving or whatever on Friday.  Not disputing it; I just hadn't -- Twitter was online and so forth, how did they -- anyway, let me answer your question.  It doesn't matter whether they heard it or not.  Remember, now, Nic Robertson and the boys at CNN and whoever else is over there, doesn't matter if the Egyptians heard it.  The point is this was Obama's revolution.  All that was for our consumption, not theirs.  The coverage of the Egyptian revolution, whatever it was, was for our consumption.  It was an attempt by State-Controlled Media to shape events for Obama in the minds of the American people, pure and simple.  Which, again, I explained last week, somebody said why are you spending so much time on this?  'Cause it was an object lesson in media, not an object lesson in freedom, uprisings, revolutions, or democracy.  I mean really, folks, these people are in the throes of euphoria and some CNN reporter asked them what they think of Obama.  This guy's lucky that he wasn't tomatoed to death or pomegranate'd or dated, whatever they throw over there.  Lucky he got his report out.  


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Re: Rush Limbaugh Live Thread
« Reply #219 on: February 14, 2011, 06:30:51 PM »
How soon before Obama starts immigrating them here under the guise of human rights?
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« Reply #220 on: February 14, 2011, 06:40:15 PM »
How soon before Obama starts immigrating them here under the guise of human rights?

You're absolutely correct......although not sure it would be a guise.

The people that are afraid for their lives are the secularists...the Christians...and people who don't want to see Sharia Law in their Homeland.

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« Reply #221 on: February 14, 2011, 06:47:03 PM »
You're absolutely correct......although not sure it would be a guise.

The people that are afraid for their lives are the secularists...the Christians...and people who don't want to see Sharia Law in their Homeland.



But all this "unrest" is a good cover to immigrate to spread Islam according to the tenets of their religion.
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« Reply #222 on: February 15, 2011, 11:57:58 AM »

You knoooow .... you guy's are beginning to sound like ... nativists.  At ease  :patriot:  Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

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« Reply #223 on: February 15, 2011, 06:45:37 PM »
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« Reply #224 on: February 15, 2011, 09:29:57 PM »
~ROFLOL~  good one.
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