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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #50 on: January 30, 2014, 03:29:45 am »
So, you justify bad behavior with bad behavior.
 
"Well, Johnny did it too! Why are you picking on meeeee?"

I'm not justifying anything.  What would you expect the man to do, though?  I wonder how many emails a day he gets that say something clever like "Boner Sux," and such.  I guess people just need things to complain about?   :shrug:
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #51 on: January 30, 2014, 03:32:17 am »
I believe this is the article you referred to. Boehner said it BEFORE the SOTU. What he said after, differs.

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House Speaker John Boehner issued a stern warning to President Obama ahead of Tuesday night's State of the Union address: "We have a Constitution. We abide by it. If he tries to ignore it, he's going to run into a brick wall."

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Boehner, speaking later to reporters, said Obama likely has the authority to raise the wage for federal contractors. He downplayed the impact the move would have. "Let's understand something: this affects not one current contract, it only affects future contracts with the federal government. And so I think the question is, how many people, Mr. President will this executive action actually help? I suspect the answer is somewhere close to zero," he said.

But Boehner reminded the president not to overstep his bounds as he weighs other executive actions.

"House Republicans will continue to look closely at whether the president is faithfully executing the laws -- as he took an oath to do," Boehner said. "Now I think dealing with federal contracts and the minimum wage, he probably has the authority to do that but we're going to watch very closely because there's a Constitution that we all take an oath to, including him."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/28/have-constitution-boehner-warns-obama-on-exec-orders/

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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #52 on: January 30, 2014, 03:32:20 am »
"House Republicans will continue to look closely at whether the president is faithfully executing the laws -- as he took an oath to do,"
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/28/have-constitution-boehner-warns-obama-on-exec-orders/
 
Is this it? This is what you are talking about? The stern warning "We will continue to look closely at....". That is the justification that Boehner is on the ball.
 
WHY HASN'T HE BEEN "LOOKING CLOSELY AT"...FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS? And so what if he 'looks closely at'? Who cares? So what? What is he going to do?
 
I'll tell you....
 
Absolutely Nothing.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #53 on: January 30, 2014, 03:34:20 am »
"House Republicans will continue to look closely at whether the president is faithfully executing the laws -- as he took an oath to do,"
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/28/have-constitution-boehner-warns-obama-on-exec-orders/
 
Is this it? This is what you are talking about? The stern warning "We will continue to look closely at....". That is the justification that Boehner is on the ball.
 
WHY HASN'T HE BEEN "LOOKING CLOSELY AT"...FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS? And so what if he 'looks closely at'? Who cares? So what? What is he going to do?
 
I'll tell you....
 
Absolutely Nothing.

Exactly.  What do you expect him to do?
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #54 on: January 30, 2014, 03:37:45 am »
Exactly.  What do you expect him to do?

Name a select committee to look into Benghazi for starters! And after that is done another to look into the IRS scandal! Etc Etc.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #55 on: January 30, 2014, 03:40:15 am »
Name a select committee to look into Benghazi for starters! And after that is done another to look into the IRS scandal! Etc Etc.

A select committee is a waste of time.  It's findings will be dismissed as partisan and political. 
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #56 on: January 30, 2014, 03:40:35 am »
Exactly.  What do you expect him to do?

Touche' man. You have accidentally won the arguement. What do I expect him to do?
 
Nothing. Absolutely nothing, that's what I expect from Boehner, except maybe to trash more Republicans and call it the Republican's (Tea Party) fault.
 
What do I think should be done? Well you would have to ask Paul and Cruz about that.
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If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #57 on: January 30, 2014, 03:41:24 am »

Touche' man. You have accidentally won the arguement. What do I expect him to do?
 
Nothing. Absoltely nothing, except maybe trash more Republicans and call it the Republican's (Tea Party) fault.
 
What do I think should be done? Well you would have to ask Paul and Cruz about that.

What have Cruz and Paul done to stop Obama?  Also, I "won the argument" when you called me "bucko."  Bigun says I have "sheite for brains," as well.  When you have to resort to childish insults, the debate is lost.  I don't like Boehner.  I've stated this numerous times.  I don't know what else to tell you.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #58 on: January 30, 2014, 03:42:55 am »
A select committee is a waste of time.  It's findings will be dismissed as partisan and political.

So you say! I beg to differ very strongly!

Whatever the inside the beltway crowd says there will remain facts and evidence!

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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #59 on: January 30, 2014, 03:45:32 am »
A select committee is a waste of time.  It's findings will be dismissed as partisan and political.

This is where you are wrong.  Go back in history. Do you know what finally brought Nixon down?  A Select Committee.   I am going out on a limb and presuming you are aware of exactly how a select committee differs from these dog and pony shows we see every few months with Issa?   

I am also going out on a limb and assuming you are aware 75% of the GOP house (more than just TP members) have written at least twice to Boehner to please name a select committee for Benghazi.   They are as confused as "some" of us here on why they do not even receive an answer from Boehner - which begs the question. Why? What is Boehner helping Obama cover up?
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #60 on: January 30, 2014, 03:46:12 am »
What have Cruz and Paul done to stop Obama?  Also, I "won the argument" when you called me "bucko."  Bigun says I have "sheite for brains," as well.  When you have to resort to childish insults, the debate is lost.  I don't like Boehner.  I've stated this numerous times.  I don't know what else to tell you.

I know that, I know where you are and that you are a good person. Bucko was a term of endearment. If we can't argue as friends, then what do we have?
 
That is just how I talk. It was nothing pointed specifically at you.
 
Take it easy. We are all on the same side.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #61 on: January 30, 2014, 03:46:47 am »
So you say! I beg to differ very strongly!

Really?  A select committee filled with GOP House members isn't going to be viewed as partisan?

There have already been 5 committees investigating Benghazi, yet this next one is going to blow the public away? 

Let's be realistic here.  Focus on stopping the future amnesty, and not dwelling on the past right now.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #62 on: January 30, 2014, 03:47:44 am »
I believe that given Obama has effectively overhauled the military leadership, that most current high level politicians are cowered into silence and acceptance.

That's why we need FRESH new blood energized with pi$$ and vinegar.

That said, I think it's already too late.  Citizenship for 20 million new democrats sure dampens the spirit.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #63 on: January 30, 2014, 03:47:51 am »

I know that, I know where you are and that you are a good person. Bucko was a term of endearment. If we can't argue as friends, then what do we have?
 
That is just how I talk. It was nothing pointed specifically at you.
 
Take it easy. We are all on the same side.

My flame suit was on, because I tend to run a bit astray from the GOPBR mainstream thought patterns.  Bucko is fine.  "S**t for brains" is dumb.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #64 on: January 30, 2014, 03:52:10 am »
Really?  A select committee filled with GOP House members isn't going to be viewed as partisan?

There have already been 5 committees investigating Benghazi, yet this next one is going to blow the public away? 

Let's be realistic here.  Focus on stopping the future amnesty, and not dwelling on the past right now.

As has already been pointed out to you by others, select committees operate under a VERY different set of rules than do standing committees and that is a game changer! Which Boehner well knows and the reason he refuses to appoint them!
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #65 on: January 30, 2014, 03:52:16 am »
It is time for some online poker, a couple o' shots of moonshine, and some sleep. Then I wake up, go to work, come home, watch TV, go to sleep....and then do it all over again.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #66 on: January 30, 2014, 03:54:48 am »
My flame suit was on, because I tend to run a bit astray from the GOPBR mainstream thought patterns.  Bucko is fine.  "S**t for brains" is dumb.

I never said that you had sheite for brains! I said that you were so full of sheite on the issue currently under discussion that your eyes were turning brown! NOT the same thing! Not by a long shot!
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #67 on: January 30, 2014, 03:59:15 am »
The crime (IMO) is this is going on two years..........

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/12/05/select-committee-on-benghazi-precedent-exists/


Select Committee on Benghazi: Precedent Exists

Morgan Lorraine Roach

December 5, 2012 at 1:30 pm

In the aftermath of the September 11 attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, the Obama Administration announced efforts to investigate the facts behind the attack and the state of U.S. security at overseas diplomatic facilities.

While the reports, undertaken by the State Department’s Accountability and Review Board (ARB) and inspector general, have yet to be released, an additional investigation by Congress via a select or special committee could shed light on many unanswered questions.

In Congress, the House of Representatives and Senate have select, special, and joint committees that direct their attention to specific issues, conduct oversight, and investigate fraud, waste, and abuse of power (e.g., the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence). Joint committees are bicameral (e.g., the Joint Committee on Taxation). These committees were enacted by a congressional resolution and are permanent. However, select committees can also serve as temporary forums for investigating emerging issues that do not fall under existing standing committee jurisdictions or overlap jurisdictional boundaries.

The most notable select committees include the Senate’s Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities (also known as “the Watergate Committee”) and the joint Congressional Committee Investigating the Iran–Contra Affair. In 1973, in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal, a resolution introduced by the late Senator Ted Kennedy (D–MA) passed unanimously in the Senate to form a select committee to investigate President Richard Nixon’s participation in the break-in at the Democratic National Committee offices. In 1987, the House and Senate formed a joint select committee to investigate President Ronald Reagan’s involvement in the sale of arms to Iran.

However, in neither case was there a loss of American life or a direct assault on U.S. security. A more relevant precedent for the establishment of a select committee is the 1946 Joint Congressional Committee on the Investigation of the Pearl Harbor Attack. Following the 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor, the committee was established by a joint congressional resolution to investigate the facts and circumstances leading up to and following the attack. The committee’s final report further identifies its responsibility:

   
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To find lessons to avoid pitfalls in the future, to evolve constructive suggestions for the protection of our national security, and to determine whether there were failures in our own military and naval establishments which in any measure may have contributed to the extent and intensity of the disaster.
This is not intended to equate the terrorist attack in Libya with the Japanese assault (considered an “act of war”) on Pearl Harbor; it is intended merely to demonstrate that there is precedent for Congress establishing a special committee to investigate a violation of U.S. territorial integrity.

In the case of the attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Congress has held briefings, hearings, and floated countless letters between Administration officials and members. Yet, as Senator Lindsey Graham (R–SC) acknowledged last month, the risk of stove-piping emerges as conflicting accounts muddle the investigatory process.

Because the Benghazi attack covers multiple congressional committee jurisdictions, the establishment of a joint select committee presents an opportunity for a proactive and coordinated approach by Congress.

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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #68 on: January 30, 2014, 04:06:04 am »
The crime (IMO) is this is going on two years..........

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/12/05/select-committee-on-benghazi-precedent-exists/


Select Committee on Benghazi: Precedent Exists

Morgan Lorraine Roach

December 5, 2012 at 1:30 pm

In the aftermath of the September 11 attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, the Obama Administration announced efforts to investigate the facts behind the attack and the state of U.S. security at overseas diplomatic facilities.

While the reports, undertaken by the State Department’s Accountability and Review Board (ARB) and inspector general, have yet to be released, an additional investigation by Congress via a select or special committee could shed light on many unanswered questions.

In Congress, the House of Representatives and Senate have select, special, and joint committees that direct their attention to specific issues, conduct oversight, and investigate fraud, waste, and abuse of power (e.g., the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence). Joint committees are bicameral (e.g., the Joint Committee on Taxation). These committees were enacted by a congressional resolution and are permanent. However, select committees can also serve as temporary forums for investigating emerging issues that do not fall under existing standing committee jurisdictions or overlap jurisdictional boundaries.

The most notable select committees include the Senate’s Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities (also known as “the Watergate Committee”) and the joint Congressional Committee Investigating the Iran–Contra Affair. In 1973, in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal, a resolution introduced by the late Senator Ted Kennedy (D–MA) passed unanimously in the Senate to form a select committee to investigate President Richard Nixon’s participation in the break-in at the Democratic National Committee offices. In 1987, the House and Senate formed a joint select committee to investigate President Ronald Reagan’s involvement in the sale of arms to Iran.

However, in neither case was there a loss of American life or a direct assault on U.S. security. A more relevant precedent for the establishment of a select committee is the 1946 Joint Congressional Committee on the Investigation of the Pearl Harbor Attack. Following the 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor, the committee was established by a joint congressional resolution to investigate the facts and circumstances leading up to and following the attack. The committee’s final report further identifies its responsibility:

    This is not intended to equate the terrorist attack in Libya with the Japanese assault (considered an “act of war”) on Pearl Harbor; it is intended merely to demonstrate that there is precedent for Congress establishing a special committee to investigate a violation of U.S. territorial integrity.

In the case of the attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Congress has held briefings, hearings, and floated countless letters between Administration officials and members. Yet, as Senator Lindsey Graham (R–SC) acknowledged last month, the risk of stove-piping emerges as conflicting accounts muddle the investigatory process.

Because the Benghazi attack covers multiple congressional committee jurisdictions, the establishment of a joint select committee presents an opportunity for a proactive and coordinated approach by Congress.


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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #69 on: January 30, 2014, 04:13:10 am »
People who were old enough to remember the Watergate era and those born after Watergate don't know or remember going into the hearings Nixon had very high ratings and they stayed high - at first - but as more and more came out and then Woodward and Bernstein started to reveal what Deep Throat told them his polling numbers fell and fell and fell and he was more than a lame duck left with no alternative but resign... something I cheered when it finally happened - but just like Benghazi it didn't happen over night - it seemed to go on forever until the Democrats AND Republicans agreed on a Select Committee.  I'm convinced without the select committee Nixon would have ridden this thing until he was out of office.
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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #70 on: January 30, 2014, 04:22:40 am »
I remember it like you, Rap. I believed Nixon until he wouldn't release the tapes, and then 14 minutes or so were missing. I knew then. I was heart-broken, but then, became mad as hell, and wanted him gone to get it over with. Looking back, what Nixon did is normal by today's standards.

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« Reply #71 on: January 30, 2014, 04:24:45 am »
I remember it like you, Rap. I believed Nixon until he wouldn't release the tapes, and then 14 minutes or so were missing. I knew then. I was heart-broken, but then, became mad as hell, and wanted him gone to get it over with. Looking back, what Nixon did is normal by today's standards.

What was done in the Nixon era would look like a Sunday School picnic in comparison with the goings on of this administration I'm afraid!
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« Reply #72 on: January 30, 2014, 04:30:58 am »
What was done in the Nixon era would look like a Sunday School picnic in comparison with the goings on of this administration I'm afraid!

Obama had and has one scandal after another, though the MSM doesn't call them scandals. If they were honest, Obama would have been long gone. He's a world-wide embarrassment. So is our media.

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and...........


 
    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

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Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
« Reply #74 on: January 30, 2014, 02:42:42 pm »
“Think of the press as a great keyboard
on which the government can play.”
― Joseph Goebbels

“That propaganda is good which leads to success, and that is bad which fails to achieve the desired result. It is not propaganda’s task to be intelligent, its task is to lead to success.”
― Joseph Goebbels


“Success is the important thing. Propaganda is not a matter for average minds, but rather a matter for practitioners. It is not supposed to be lovely or theoretically correct. I do not care if I give wonderful, aesthetically elegant speeches, or speak so that women cry. The point of a political speech is to persuade people of what we think right. I speak differently in the provinces than I do in Berlin, and when I speak in Bayreuth, I say different things than I say in the Pharus Hall. That is a matter of practice, not of theory. We do not want to be a movement of a few straw brains, but rather a movement that can conquer the broad masses. Propaganda should be popular, not intellectually pleasing. It is not the task of propaganda to discover intellectual truths.”
― Joseph Goebbels



“We shall go down in history as the greatest statesmen of all time,or as the greatest criminals”
― Joseph Goebbels




“What does Christianity mean today? National Socialism is a religion. All we lack is a religious genius capable of uprooting outmoded religious practices and putting new ones in their place. We lack traditions and ritual. One day soon National Socialism will be the religion of all Germans. My Party is my church, and I believe I serve the Lord best if I do his will, and liberate my oppressed people from the fetters of slavery. That is my gospel.”
― Joseph Goebbels


and...........


 
    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

― Joseph Goebbels

and Joseph Gobbels learned the trade at the feet of Woodrow Wilson's propaganda minister Dr. Edward Bernays!

http://www.criticalthink.info/webindex/bernays.htm
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien