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Combat Vets: Afghan Agreement Sets Up Dangerous Rules of Engagement
Wednesday, November 27, 2013 08:12 AM

By: Sandy Fitzgerald

New rules of engagement in Afghanistan through a new bilateral agreement will add dangerous limits on how American troops can fight with the Taliban and make Afghan homes safe hideaways for the enemy, combat veterans say.

As part of the proposed Bilateral Security Agreement between the United States and Afghanistan, President Barack Obama in a letter to Afghan President Hamid Karzai vowed that U.S. forces will not enter Afghan homes "except under extraordinary circumstances involving urgent risk of life and limb," reports The Washington Times.

Karzai and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry announced the proposed security agreement last Thursday. Karzai wants to hold off on signing the document, putting the burden on his successor in April's presidential election, but Afghan's tribal elders approve the pact and want it signed by 2014, reports UPI.

Already, rules of engagement say that U.S. troops must confirm that a Taliban fighter is armed before they can fire, which has resulted in some aerial gunships being denied permission to fight even after reporting armed targets on the move.

Ryan Zinke, a veteran who had commanded an assault team within SEAL Team 6, told The Washington Times that the security deal will be "effectively used against us."

The first people who are going to look at it and review it are the enemy we're trying to fight," said Zinke, who is now a Montana state senator and is campaigning in the Republican primary for the state's U.S. House seat.

Zinke said the new rules mean the United States is "losing our ability to fight overseas," and "this is where we either fight or go home."

Troops have been complaining for some time about rules of engagement that got even more strict in 2010, after a series of bombings killed civilians and special operations troops raided homes and villages during the night.

Retired U.S. Army Col. Ken Allard, who is now a military analyst, complained to The Washington Times that the new rules "make sense only in proportion to your distance from the combat zone."

The security agreement also sets up the legal status of troops who will remain in Afghanistan after the end of 2014, when international troops are set to leave. Up to 18,000 international troops, which includes 8,000 from the United States, will stay behind for 10 years to train Afghan forces and hunt terrorists.

Zinke said soldiers coming home have told him they were frustrated because of the "too restrictive rules."

“I’ve always been a champion of, if we are going to fight, fight to win,” said Zinke. “And you’ve got to give our troops that are in harm’s way every tool and every advantage that is possible. “And when you start restricting [rules of engagement] — when you limit our ability to fight at night, where you restrict the ground commanders’ ability to react quickly without having to go up the chain of command and also when you’re forced to bring along the Afghan forces who are notorious for the lack of security — then I think it puts troops in greater risk.”
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Re: Combat Vets: Afghan Agreement Sets Up Dangerous Rules of Engagement
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2013, 01:46:28 pm »
Obama and Company would just as soon have Karzai continue to refuse to sign the SOFA, because that would clear the way for all US troops to be completely withdrawn from Afghanistan by the end of next year.  That is exactly what Obama has wanted to do for years, and he already has experience by sabotaging the SOFA with Iraq, and look how well that is working out.....

More Kabuki Theater meant to distract from Obamacare...


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Re: Combat Vets: Afghan Agreement Sets Up Dangerous Rules of Engagement
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 06:11:15 pm »
I am not going to post what I really think is going on.....once again I am upset with the regime.